How dominant has Wlad really been?

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  1. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Hopefully his reign ends tonight so now is a good time to discuss his dominance.

    For me, there are too good measures: look at the ranking of every opponent when he fought them or draw up a top ten list of the last decade.

    The former is too much effort for a Saturday morning so I'm opting for the latter.

    Imo a top 10 of the last 10 years looks like this:

    Wlad
    Vitali
    Haye
    Povetkin
    Peter
    Chagaev
    Ibragimov
    Wilder
    Chambers
    Thompson

    Do people agree with that? Now Wlad has unified a lot of title claims, is the lineal champ and also the best in the world right now and by my money he has beaten 7 of the top 10 of the last decade.

    That's pretty dominant.

    I wonder how many champs in HW history can day the same. I only wonder because I'm not gonna look it up myself but from the top of my head, if we look at the preceding decade before the final championship fight, the following will have a similar ratio: Jeffries, Johnson, Louis, Marciano, Ali, Holmes, Tyson, Lewis. Not sure there will be any others and I'm not sure of the numbers from those I picked.

    So basically I'm saying he's been incredibly dominant from the perspective of today and historical speaking.
     
  2. Jacko

    Jacko Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He certainly hasn't fought in the deepest ever era, but he has been one of the most dominating champions in any division ever in terms of remaining undefeated for a long time, beating pretty much every viable opponent out there and beating them dominantly.

    It's a pitty that the best opponent of his era was his brother and that, on the face of it, the HW division seems to be getting better with some good young guys coming up as Wlad is nearing the end.
     
  3. turnip

    turnip Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The HWs have been very poor over the last ten .people poping up for a title shot getting beaten and then disappearing never to be heard of again .hopefully it looks like some prospects are filtering through now and the HWs are getting interesting again .Having good HW division is good for boxing .
     
  4. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    He'll show tonight why he is the man, and shut the snipers up.
     
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    Jennifer Love Hewitt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  6. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    As dominant as any heavyweight can possibly be.
     
  7. ValdeZisComing

    ValdeZisComing Member Full Member

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    Dominant against a weak crop of heavyweights. Looking forward to seeing the careers of Joshua, Whtye and a few others just starting to show potential. The British have the best of the young heavyweights.
     
  8. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yes never happened before has it? Like in the 1990s?

    Bruce Seldon, Henry Akinwande, Axel Schulz, Frans Botha, Comeback 50 year old Foreman, crackaddict Oliver McCall, Vaugn Bean. Amazing depth of challengers and belt holders :rofl:rofl:rofl
     
  9. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    Not forgetting Herbert Hide and his mate Michael Bentt.
     
  10. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    He's been one of the most dominant champions in history, in any class.

    Should he win today, he'll most likely finish his entire 30's unbeaten.

    In that time span, he's lost perhaps one round a year or so. That is unreal in championship level boxing. The challengers he's been facing the last few years have fought essentially their entire careers with only Wlad to gun for.

    Say what you want about level of competition, but you've had an entire generation of amateur standouts and world caliber prospects able to focus 100% on bringing one man down for years. There's a reason you don't see reigns like this everyday. Eventually, even a lesser fighter can have their day and upset the champ when everyone is gunning for him.
     
  11. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    This is an example of how when there is a dominant champ people claim its not a tough era.
    When champs go life and death with opponents suddenly its a tough era, then a dominant champ appears, beats all with ease and suddenly its not a good era.

    Wladimir has been a great champ and beaten many top fighters. I expect that if he had of retired every now and again and another dominant champ appeared, say Povetkin or Haye for example and then Wlad turned up and beat them he would probably be given higher praise than when he just stayed champ and beat them.

    Still with all that I am going against the grain and feeling Fury will outpoint Wlad
     
  12. kriszhao

    kriszhao Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Precisely
     
  13. Cafe

    Cafe Sitzpinkler Full Member

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    The most dominant bestest ever.
     
  14. Super Hans

    Super Hans The Super Oneā„¢ banned

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    Exactly. Just because Golovkin is so much better than anyone at Middleweight doesn't make everyone at Middleweight 'bums'. This era is no worse than the one Hopkins dominated.
     
  15. turnip

    turnip Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well you remembered them didn't you?.The fighters you mentioned are a different class than the cr#p that have been boring the pants off us for the last decade.