Judging standards in boxing need to change, Fury horrible

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by newby johnson, Nov 29, 2015.


  1. newby johnson

    newby johnson Boxing Addict Full Member

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    First of all, a guy shouldn't be able to win a round by a margin of 2-3 punches. The standard for winning a round should be "did someone take a beating in this round."

    The standard of judging is idiotic. I don't want to see this, and casual fans sure as hell don't want to see this.

    This is a ****ing joke. Fury talks and walks and acts like a tough guy and then when it comes time to fight, he summons up the ***** to throw 1-2 substantive punches a round.

    Up until round 11 or something like that all the rounds were draws. This is a joke. A guy can't win a fight by landing 2-3 more power punches than the other guy.

    Fights like these should be judged draws and the fighters jeered. I remember Mike Tyson once said that a long time ago if a fighter STUNK OUT THE JOINT like these two did he'd not get paid. Well, obviously, you can't withhold the purse, but you oughtta ridicule them and say that NO ONE won this fight. No one fought until the 12th or so.
     
  2. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    What were your opinions on judging when Wlad would win rounds by jabbing and grabbing?
     
  3. ITSMACHOTIME

    ITSMACHOTIME Active Member Full Member

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    Wlads been stinking out fights for 10 years..Remember when he didnt throw a right hand against Ibragimov untill round 6. Or when he humped a shot Mormeck to death , the list goes on..

    Tyson Fury on the other hand stood in front of wlad with his hands behind his back ,clowing the champ like its nothing..

    Fury is great for boxing and we can finally see some good fights without all the hugging and other k2 ******s..
     
  4. qwertyblahblah

    qwertyblahblah Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fury won. Yes the scoring system should be improved, and it wouldn't be hard, we'd simply have to use more of the 20 points. But just because a fight was close or the winner didn't win impressively doesn't mean it should be called a tie. Boxing isn't always about giving a beating. Stupid idea.
     
  5. newby johnson

    newby johnson Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Are you two stupid?

    I'm not here cheer leading for Wlad. I'm talking about boxing in general. These kind of rounds happen all the time and guys get them based on 2-3 punches.

    That SHOULDN'T BE HAPPENING.

    Its an idiotic standard. This is a goddamn fistfight. Someone has to do something of substance.

    You're not OBLIGATED to score the round for someone. You score the round for a guy if he beats the other guy up. If no one does squat you score it a 10 10. We want to know who the bigger man is here, this is what this is, this is a fight.
     
  6. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Another fight that went like this was Banks-Mitchell 2, the stood there looking at each other for 12 rounds, it was an abomination of a match, maybe one of the worst fights I've ever seen, the fact that the most prestigious belt in the sport changed hands today because Fury played a cutie today mugging like an ass and did his best to not get hit, while throwing little himself, while Wlad didn't throw a damn thing, is pretty sad.
     
  7. DSG496

    DSG496 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    not specific to this fight, but I think they should maybe trial a 20 points a round system, where if someone edges it its 20-19 and if someone wins clearly its 20-18, then 20-16 for a knock down. It will hopefully encourage more attacking boxing.

    Thought fury in this fight was better in most rounds bar the 12th and deserved the win.
     
  8. First Round KO

    First Round KO Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Fury's father John was a terrible fighter so i always find it funny when people say it's in his blood, his father was the Eddie The Eagle of boxing.
     
  9. newby johnson

    newby johnson Boxing Addict Full Member

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    But I'm not even talking about how miserable the fight was, I'm saying even if you got a round like any of the rounds in Hagler Hearns, if no one clearly beat the other guy up, if no one clearly dished out SUBSTANTIALLY more punishment, the round should be a draw, regardless of how action packed it was.

    Rounds should be judged the way you'd judge a fistfight outside a bar. Someone has to beat the other guy up AND by a wide enough margin.

    If we're playing chess you wouldn't say "I win because I came CLOSE to checkmating you."
     
  10. qwertyblahblah

    qwertyblahblah Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Why do we need 20 points to do that? We have 10 points to use with the existing system, we should use more than the single point we basically use now. Slight win 10-9, clear win 10-8, dominant round 10-7, outclassed 10-6. Still leaves plenty of remaining points for knockdown and penalty deductions. Like you said, it would encourage guys to fight to win, rather than avoid losing.

    If a 'typical' fight includes 8 or 9 of 12 rounds as at least 10-8 rounds the scoring would better reflect how clearly the winner won. If most of the Fury-Klit rounds were close, we should be able to point to even 1 or 2 rounds that Fury clearly won to show that the he definitely deserved the fight.
     
  11. newby johnson

    newby johnson Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I agree that we should be using more of the 10 points... first of all, its silly to have 10 points MUST, why not just hand out points for winning rounds rather than substracting them, who hte hell came up with that, but, yeah, I agree, more of the points should be given out for degrees of domination.

    However, that's not the main problem. The biggest improvement would come from judges actually starting to hand out goddamn 10 10 rounds.


    However, what ALSO should be instituted is that you need a certain margin of points in order to win a fight. Otherwise what you would get is fights like, well, say this one, where up until the 11th round or so no one did squat, so you'd get 11 drawn rounds and then someone wins based on one round.
     
  12. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    "The scoring needs to change"

    Am i having deja vu?

    Didn't Pac****s come out with the same excuses on May 3rd?

    Its called spitting out your dummy.
     
  13. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It doesn't matter if Fury only landed 2/3 punches in a round, that's still better than Wladmirs 1.
     
  14. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No of course you're not.

    Its just a coincidence that you start a thread very soon after Wladmir gets schooled and loses on points to a fighter that was always better than him.
     
  15. lucky luke

    lucky luke Well-Known Member Full Member

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    In this case 3 Power punches were 300% more than the other guy, 10-9.