Judging standards in boxing need to change, Fury horrible

yeah I can see an argument to that way too, personally I think the 20 point way is better but we're in essence saying the same thing though, Ie there should be a way of differentiating between edging a round and clearly winning it. Unless there's a knockdown its rare for 10-8 rounds to be given at present.

We don't see enough shared rounds at 10-10 either, the judges always seem to want to give someone the round.

 

ANY Floyd Mayweather fight was like first 8 rounds of this bout for most of his career. These giants had the determination to actually fight for 4 rounds, at least. Sweet science is not about 2 mexicans beating each other's brains into jelly, it is about not getting hit while being able to hit your opponent. Fury executed this very well. 3 meaningful punches landed is infinitely more than 0 punches at all landed on your opponent...

 

This sums up the situation perfectly.

 

Jesus wept. Damn you Fury for not allowing yourself get hit. You're a disgrace.

 

sven ottke would have had about 30 draws by criteria
i saw him v johnson never throw a punch in a round and never take a punch in the round on his bike the whole time.

some match ups do stink , this was one off them last night, i expected tyson to be more reckless and get ko`d by a lead left hook, he took this punch away with his gameplan but it made for a poor spectacle.
the nuetral would agree with your view.

 

It might have looked that way but Fury's punch output is comparable to many of Wlad's previous opponents.


Ibragimov: 97/316 (31%) - Klitschko: 148/348 (43%)


Haye: 72/290 (25%) - Klitshcko: 134/509 (26%)


Wach: 60/308 (19) - Klitschko: 274/693 (40%)


Povetkin: 59/283 (21%) - Klitshcko: 139/417 (33%)


Jennings: 110/376 (29%) - Klitschko: 144/545 (26%)


Fury: 86 of 371 (23%) Klitschko: 52/231 (23%)


The difference is in what Wlad was unable to do this time, i.e. throw punches (particularly his Jab) with the confidence of making his target.

Fury took that away from him, fighting a great defensive fight.

 

This thread should be renamed

"Hey lets change boxings rules because Wladmir got outboxed, that way we can try and get some consolation".

 

I want to reintroduce 10-10 rounds as a standard scoring procedure in boxing.

If nobody clearly won the round score it 10-10. Only decisive rounds should be winning rounds.

I scored several 10-10 rounds last night because nobody really did anything.

Overall, I had Fury as the clear victor though, still. I do think he won the fight.

 

I say he won because he was clearly more active and productive than Wladimir. I know he didn't do loads but he threw way more powershots and landed substantially more than Wladimir, so if I can offer some decisive rounds, even though most were probably drawn rounds, I'm more inclined to offer them to Fury than Wladimir. He still did clearly more, even though he didn't do a whole lot.

I've been indoctrinated and assimilated by the system, so I can't currently view things to the extremes that you currently do, but I do see your points and am at least half way there with you.

Fundamentally, 10-10 rounds should be encouraged not discouraged, as to force the fighters to go out and "win" their rounds.

If we go by your extreme methods, perhaps 10 rounds were drawn and 2 were won for 1-1 = rematch.

From my perspective, Fury did enough to win, but it was like winning a football match barely 1-0 in a match with only 5 shots on target.

 

Yes, if I recall, the more decisive rounds were 9 and 12. Is that the round you're thinking of, 9? The rounds are already blurry to me, but can you blame me. :nut

If one goes by consistent "small edges" Fury won. If we only award definitively decisive rounds then it isn't clear. I think you raise valid points regarding the idea that judging standards in boxing do need to change. Fighting should be encouraged, and not merely eking out and edging out rounds. That's my opinion though.

 

No I'm not stupid. I'm asking you a question.

 

I agree this scoring system needs to be revised


Merely subtracting one point for losing a round and two points for going down ...?????


The clear winner of the round should have to be more defined than this fight displayed.
this was close to a drawls I've ever seen