CLASSIC FIGHT NIGHT THREAD:Wilder-Fury II

Worse things have happened. This one benefits world class fighters from 190-220lb getting better recognition and a higher profile. Officially it's not ok that there is no where for a 220 guy to call home.

 

It won't make more. It's a name change!

Remember when one body called light middle super welter? Another called cruiser jnr heavyweight? There were no extra champions once the names changed back. The same when one body made cruiser have a few extra pounds before the others followed suit. It's a name change that's all.

 

Only if the rules (and refs) allow it. I don't see why you guys are taking for granted that this stuff is inevitable.

 

There's been Giants in boxing since the start, trouble is recently there hasn't been any great little guys to trouble Wlad. Let's not pretend he was unbeatable, he was stopped by 6"1' 226lb Lamon Brewster.

 

The trouble is the older giants were not nearly as good as the modern ones can be. In their primes, Bowe, Lewis, and the Klitschko's lost but one decision combined! What does that tell you?

Brewster, by the way, had great power, and durability. That's why he's 1-1 vs Wlad. How he got up from that right hand, I'll never know.

 

it tells you conditions that used to favour Joe Louis and Jack Dempsey have been entirely eradicated in favour of only giving the advantage always to the bigger man.

 

Did the Super Middleweight division devalue the Middleweight division because I dont think it did

However if they had created the Super Middelweight division while changing the name of middleweight to say Average weight then I think it would devalue the old middle weight division.

The days of the HW division of old dont exist so boxing needs to adapt. Change the name of Cruiserweight to Heavyweight and it will not diminish the sport.

 

Of course it won't. Amateur boxing call it Heavyweight already. Have done for years.

 

Depends on whether or not there's money to be made in a particular division, relative to your choices. Right now for example very few fighters cut down to try and make cruiserweight, simply because there's more money to be made in the heavyweight division, so rather than cut down in weight, they actually artificially increase their weight to give themselves a better chance of beating the giants of the division.

If we added another weight class called Superheavyweight, it would be the most lucrative, simply because there's always been a fascination with the biggest baddest man on the planet, which was the title the former heavyweight champs had. But one thing for sure, belts, and lots of them, got to go.

 

I understand where you are coming from and yes it will create confusion amongst the casual fan and will potentially be a disaster for marketing purposes.

What most of us do want though is a more competitive, exciting HW divsion. The style that HWs fight at now resemble a different weight class from HW boxing in the past. HW boxing had its barren years where there wasnt an exciting division but the division doesnt even resemble what it used to be. Is there really any point comparing Wladimir Klitchko in a h2h battle with Joe Louis? I think Joe Louis is the greatest HW puncher of all time but I honestly dont think he would have a division that he would be comfortable at today.

You say that you dont want to diminish the sport but boxing is already diminished. The mega FOTC between Mayweather vs Pacman recently with its massive PPV rip off did more to diminish the sport than a simple changing of the name of a division that can be easily explained to anyone with a modicum of intelligence. The HW division and its lack of exciting fighters surely has harmed the sport in the past 15 years and taken away interest in the division anyway? No it probably wont happen but I thought it was a good suggestion.

 

If they create a superheavyweight weight class, I will throw myself of a bridge!

 

All hail the new champion!! I hope he reigns for years.

 

Truly that's uncalled for,....both the super heavy division, and you going off a bridge, BTW.