Do you think "running" should be disqualifiable?

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  1. GloriaAblaze

    GloriaAblaze Active Member Full Member

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    I'm sure most of you are aware how Ingemar Johansson was once disqualified for the lack of effort he put in his Olympic match against Ed Sanders.

    With the sport already declining, these runners do nothing but further damage its reputation and viewership, imagine the damage that was inflicted by the Fury-Klitschko match up last weekend due to Wlad's unwillingness and scaredness to throw any punches.

    Do you think fighters should get warned, have points deducted or even disqualified if they're obviously trying to avoid a fight with their opponent, what are your thoughts on this issue.

    Edit: After deeply discussing this issue, the forum has come to a consensus that excessive running should be against the rules and even disqualifiable if it doesn't stop.
     
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  2. Kingkazim

    Kingkazim Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Sport is not declining.

    I Stopped reading at that point
     
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  3. Henke67

    Henke67 One of the 45% Full Member

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    No. They'll lose the fight anyway and, if their running is that blatant, they'll struggle to get good pay-day's in the future.
     
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  4. N17

    N17 Loyal Member Full Member

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    I am interested what you class as "running"?

    Give me a few examples.
     
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  5. GloriaAblaze

    GloriaAblaze Active Member Full Member

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    By running I don't mean counterpunching off the backfoot of course, I mean when boxers are afraid to fight at all. I'm sure you can find examples in some Lara fights, Thurman I believe is guilty of it as well at times.
     
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  6. GloriaAblaze

    GloriaAblaze Active Member Full Member

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    Mayweather often runs in the later rounds against his opponents trying to kill off the fight.
     
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  7. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon.

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    Running or excessive holding should be penalized and if it continues then it should lead to disqualification, just like it used to.
     
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  8. Rumple

    Rumple Well-Known Member Full Member

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    no but excessive clinching needs to be much more heavily penalized and it shouldn't take till the 68th time to take a point.
     
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  9. GloriaAblaze

    GloriaAblaze Active Member Full Member

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    Anyone who denies that the sport of boxing has been in a decline the past decade are delusional.
     
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  10. des3995

    des3995 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Thurman?? He may give ground, but he is always looking to land a big shot even when he is on the move. Ridiculous example.

    This is a silly thread. Guys who only run, with little to no offense, will almost assuredly lose the fight. "Running" at least allows a fleet of foot fighter to utilize his physical advantages over another fighter, let that fighter cut off the ring, use his own tools to halt the retreat and force some action. And I am no fan of runners.

    What should be outlawed, or at least severely discouraged, is excessive holding. Holding should only be allowed when a fighter is hurt and surviving. Holding as a regularly employed tactic(Wlad, Ruiz, Hatton at times, Hopkins at times)should be penalized.
     
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  11. Jacko

    Jacko Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I have no problem with guys backing up all night looking to counter. However, some look for the perfact shot or are to cautious and will only throw when they know they can't be countered themselves. This can lead to a dull fight, but, as has been pointed out, they will probably lose the fight and not generate much money.

    Sometimes though, some fighters are unjustly classed as runners. If an opponent is to scared to throw in case they get countered, then you could equally blame them, too.

    There is also the case of the more aggressive fighter not having the necessary skills to beat a "runner". I do find it rather whiney and pathetic when a fighter doesnt even know the basics of cutting off the ring, how to throw a feint, doesnt work the body or throws single shots and then crys about their opponent running, after the fight.
     
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  12. GloriaAblaze

    GloriaAblaze Active Member Full Member

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    They may lose or they may not, nowadays you can land a jab then run around for the rest of it and win the round.

    Or even if they lose, the boxing fans have to watch that ****, if you penalize them for it they know the ref will be on their ass and they can't get any cheap wins like it, as a result we'll see less of it.

    Holding is yet another example of course but this is not the point of the thread.

    Get rid of those two things though and boxing will be thriving again in no time I say.
     
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  13. GloriaAblaze

    GloriaAblaze Active Member Full Member

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    I said at times he runs.
     
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  14. des3995

    des3995 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Give some examples of guys who ran, strictly ran, and won a fight. Maybe you have a point.

    I've never seen Thurman run exclusively. Yes, he retreats too often for my liking, but he is always returning shots, other than the time he was hurt by Collazzo.
     
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  15. Doc Everlast

    Doc Everlast Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Was Dirrell running too much against Froch?
     
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