My Top 10 Rankings Division By Division-From Heavyweight To Minimumweight. And Yours?

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  1. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    :deal On BJS.

    It also brought me great pain to rank Canelo that high at MW. But he is the Lineal Champion.:patsch
     
  2. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    I did say you all didn't have to do a top 10 for every division, just the one of your choosing.....and still no one even makes an attempt.:verysad
     
  3. Capt

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    HEAVYWEIGHT
    1. Tyson Fury
    2. Wladimir Klitschko
    3. Alexander Povetkin
    4. Anthony Joshua
    5. Deontay Wilder
    6. Joseph Parker
    7. Luis Ortiz
    8. Bryant Jennings
    9. Ruslan Chagaev
    10. Kubrat Pulev

    CRUISERWEIGHT
    1. Denis Lebedev
    2. Oleksandr Usyk
    3. Grigory Drozd
    4. Krzysztof Glowacki
    5. Marco Huck
    6. Ilunga Makabu
    7. Victor Emilio Ramirez
    8. Krzysztof Wlodarcyzk
    9. Thabiso Mchunu
    10. Ola Afolabi

    LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT
    1. Sergey Kovalev
    2. Artur Beterbiev
    3. Adonis Stevenson
    4. Yunieski Braehmer
    5. Jean Pascal
    6. Oleksandr Gvozdyk
    7. Dmitry Bivol
    8. Andrzej Fonfara
    9. Juergen Braehmer
    10. Nathan Cleverly

    SUPER MIDDLEWEIGHT
    1. James Degale
    2. Badou Jack
    3. Arthur Abraham
    4. Andre Dirrel
    5. Fedor Chudinov
    6. Gilberto Ramirez
    7. Lucian Bute
    8. Callum Smith
    9. Martin Murray
    10. George Groves

    MIDDLEWEIGHT
    1. Gennady Golovkin
    3. Billy Joe Saunders
    3. David Lemieux
    4. Andy Lee
    5. Peter Quillin
    6. Saul Alvarez
    7. Sergey Derevyanchenko
    8. Ievgen Khytrov
    9. Daniel Jacobs
    10. Matt Korobov

    LIGHT MIDDLEWEIGHT
    1. Demetrius Andrade
    2. Erislandy Lara
    3. Jermall Charlo
    4. Michel Soro
    5. Julian Williams
    6. Miguel Cotto
    7. Liam Smith
    8. Austin Trout
    9. Vanes Martirosyan
    10. Jermell Charlo

    WELTERWEIGHT
    1. Manny Pacquiao
    2. Kell Brook
    3. Timothy Bradley
    4. Keith Thurman
    5. Shawn Porter
    6. Amir Khan
    7. Errol Spence
    8. Sadam Ali
    9. Danny Garcia
    10. Diego Chaves

    LIGHT WELTERWEIGHT
    1.Terence Crawford
    2. Viktor Postol
    3. Lucas Matthysse
    4. Jessie Vargas
    4. Eduard Troyanovsky
    5. Ruslan Provodnikov
    6. Adrien Broner
    7. Mauricio Herrera
    8. Jose Benavidez
    9. Keita Obara
    10. Omar Figueroa

    LIGHTWEIGHT
    1. Terry Flanagan
    2. Jorge Linares
    3. Felix Verdejo
    4. Anthony Crolla
    5. Miguel Vazquez
    6. Denis Shafikov
    7. Dejan Zlaticanin
    8. Saul Rodriguez
    9. Ismael Barroso
    10. Stephen Smith

    SUPER FEATHERWEIGHT
    1. Takashi Uchiyama
    2. Francisco Vargas
    3. Takashi Miura
    4. Jose Pedraza
    5. Oscar Valdez
    6. Orlando Salido
    7. Roman Martinez
    8. Javier Fortuna
    9. Stephen Smith
    10. Mitchell Smith

    FEATHERWEIGHT
    1. Vasyl Lomachenko
    2. Gary Russell Jr.
    3. Nicolas Walters
    4. Leo Santa Cruz
    5. Jesus Marcelo Andres Cuellar
    6. Lee Selby
    7. Josh Warrington
    8. Abner Mares
    9. Joseph Diaz
    10. Jhonny Gonzalez


    SUPER BANTAMWEIGHT
    1. Guillermo Rigondeaux
    2. Carl Frampton
    3. Nonito Donaire
    4. Scott Quigg
    5. Julio Ceja
    6. Diego De La Hoya
    7. Moises Flores
    8. Gavin McDonnell
    9. Jonathan Guzman
    10. Shingo Wake

    BANTAMWEIGHT
    1. Jamie McDonnell
    2. Shinsuke Yamanaka
    3. Lee Haskins
    4. Juan Carlos Payano
    5. Shohei Omori
    6. Tomoki Kameda
    7. Anselmo Moreno
    8. Rau'shee ******
    9. Ryan Burnett
    10. Suriyan Sor Rungvisai

    SUPER FLYWEIGHT
    1. Naoya Inoue
    2. Carlos Cuadras
    3. McJoe Arroyo
    4. Sho Ishida
    5. Arthur Villanueva
    6. Zolani Tete
    7. Luis Concepcion
    8. Kohei Kono
    9. David Sanchez
    10. Koki Eto


    FLYWEIGHT
    1. Roman Gonzalez
    2. Juan Francisco Estrada
    3. Amnat Ruenroeng
    4. Kazuto Ioka
    5. Juan Carlos Reveco
    6. Brian Viloria
    7. Johnriel Casimero
    8. McWilliams Arroyo
    9. Zou Shiming
    10. Moises Fuentes

    LIGHT FLYWEIGHT
    1. Donnie Nietes
    2. Ryoochi Taguchi
    3. Javier Mendoza
    4. Adrian Hernandez
    5. Akira Yaegashi
    6. Randy Petalcorin
    7. Alberto Rossel
    8. Raul Garcia
    9. Pedro Guevara
    10. Ganigan Lopez

    MINIMUMWEIGHT
    1. Hekkie Budler
    2. Katsunari Takayama
    3. Osvaldo Novoa
    4. Francisco Rodriguez
    5. Merlito Sabillo
    6. Xiong Zhao Zhong
    7. Carlos Buitrago
    8. Wanheng Menayothin
    9. Jesus Silvestre
    10. Denver Cuello
     
  4. abuffy

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    Great WW rankings. On SMW, I think Abraham beats Degale.

    On MW, why is Canelo number TWO if he has never fought a true middleweight or above 155? I couldn't really rate him at MW because...he's never fought a 160 pounder. Just cuz of the lineal title, I suppose?
     
  5. MVC!

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    Badou Jack @ #7. :nono

    He's top 3.

    You could make a case for him to be #1 or #2
     
  6. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    Thank You Capt. and good lists.
     
  7. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    I wouldn't doubt it either, especially in Germany.:lol: Ironically even though I think AA has a slight chance to beat to Degale as well, Bute beats Abraham with relative ease, that would be a bad style for AA.

    I didn't want to rank Canelo at MW but since he's the Lineal Champion I felt compelled. But I don't give him much of a chance to beat many of the top MW's.

    Its the same conundrum I have putting Fury on top of the HW rankings I think the majority of my top 10 beats him, but he beat the man (who I think will beat him in the rematch) so for now I have to put him on top.
     
  8. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    Here's the catch I don't think he can beat any of the fighters I have listed above him.
     
  9. Xelloss

    Xelloss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think you have Saunders a tad high, and Khytrov shouldn't be on the list yet. Khytrov has upside to be sure, but I don't think he is even ready to face fringe contenders.

    Switch Saunders with Lee, and Khytrov with Heiland IMO.

    Oddly enough I agree with MVC that Jack should be higher at SMW. Strange day, but he looked solid in his last outing.

    I pretty much agree with your LHW.

    At WW I'd switch Garcia with Chaves. At the least he gave Bradley a much harder fight than Garcia ever could. The DQ was BS.

    LWW looks good.

    SWW/JMW.... meh what a mess of a division

    Rest I haven't had time to pay much attention to lately outside of #1 or 2 fighting.
     
  10. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    So someone can rank Hughie Fury over Tyson Fury and you think that's totally chill and rational?

    That leaves way too much to non-quantifiable opinion.

    You don't judge what you think will or would happen. You judge by what does happen. Or, ya know, at least you should.

    You probably had Amir Imam top 5 before last weekend. Or, at the very least, you thought that was an easily arguable opinion. Perhaps you have had Mike Lee resting inside the top 10 for several years now, too.

    Sorry but I'll stick with assessing what they do in the ring. Training vids and punking cabbies doesn't matter more than proving ones' skills against other fighters who have a proven skill level.

    Over and over, time and again, these super phenom awesome cats who everyone fancies way above more proven fighters end up never accomplishing a fraction of what some of the fighters ranked below them already had done or were in the act of doing.
     
  11. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    No I couldn't Amir Imam and have been preaching his impending downfall on every thread about him for the last year. And I've never thought Mike Lee was worth even close to a s***.:deal
     
  12. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Here's the catch he has beaten better fighters than several of the men you rank above him.

    CST80 Divisional Rankings = judging fighters NOT by who they fight and how they perform in those fights
     
  13. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Well, we agree there.

    Your logic shows that someone is totally rational to have done so, however. And that is a major issue I take with how you come to your conclusions on rankings.
     
  14. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    Yeah I know what you're talking about and I get it....but you have to admit aside from my occasional trolling, I'm fairly logical and have relatively sound judgment. Not just anyone can attempt to do a top's 10 like this.:D
     
  15. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    You were close to a troll a while back.

    You're growing on me lately.

    I certainly respect, I mean, probably 75% of what you say. Considering it's BF24, I'd say that's pretty good.

    And I too understand your argument. I just strongly feel the balance should be 80-20 at closest in favor of my argument. But hey, that's what it's all about. Always credit for your willingness to spend loads of time on certain things like this thread.