Why is Tyson so overrated H2H?

He was a great fighter. Don't get me wrong. But I've actually seen people argue he could beat Liston. Based on what? The fact he would always be discouraged when someone stood up to him? Liston was probably the most feared boxer of all time. He wasn't scared of anybody. Tyson flat out admitted he'd be scared of Liston. He was actually crying because of his fear. People have said to me "Well Tyson had a rough childhood." They're always making excuses for him.

Best Answer: You mention Tyson and immediately hundreds of little Tyson fanatics come rushing out waving their excuses around. "It's Don King's fault, it's Desiree Washington's fault, it's his wife's fault, it's Buster's fault, it's your fault, it's god's fault for taking cus" IT'S MIKE'S FAULT GET OVER IT.

Liston was one of over 20 siblings and ran away from home when he was a kid and you're telling me Tyson had a tough upbringing? What, someone killed one of his pigeons? Liston was hounded by police and under threats from the mob all his life.

Tyson was 24 when he was soundly whipped by THE GREAT Buster Douglas. Who went on to beat...oh yeah, Douglas was average.

Liston was an old man in comparison and could've gone unbeaten for a long time if he hadn't run into a prime Muhammad Ali.

So for a start, when making a fantasy Tyson matchup, you must first ignore all the tysonites who's memroy doesn't go back further than 1985.

Liston was one of history's very meanest fighters, and when somebody stood up to Tyson he didn't react well, Tyson would be quivering in his boots under the dark glare of Liston.

People argued Sonny had questionable stamina, but he went the distance several times, including dropping a decision when he broke his jaw early in a fight early in his career. Liston's a hard man to judge because he was at his prime before he took the title from Patterson. He was ducked for so long he had aged by the time he was champ. Now we know Liston had the strongest jab in heavyweight boxing, this along with his all around strength and toughness is enough for him to take Tyson into the mid to late rounds. We all know that's a key in beating Tyson.
Liston would stand up to Tyson and keep him at bay with the powerful jab However after afew rounds Tyson fades and gets worn down, Liston goes in and KO's him. and if Cus was alive Tyson would still get beaten. and if he hadn't married Robin Givens Tyson would still get beaten.

 

For what? :huh

 

Why? Because I dare say Tyson was beatable?

 

I never said that. I actually stated THE opposite of that. I still think he was a good fighter. But not nearly as good as certain posters think he is.

 

You forgot to mention the fact that Liston was green, and Marshall made him laugh then caught him. You think Danny Williams would last with any version of Sonny Liston?