Is it finally time for a Super Heavyweight division?

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  1. Dementia Pugulistica

    Dementia Pugulistica Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Don't need another damn weight division. The heavyweight division is already short on talent, splitting it up wont help match making. Recombine / redefine the original classes, come up with 8 or 9 divisions, the heavies starting at 220 and up and start calling excessive holding. Like when a 6'6" boxer has his whole torso on the back of his opponent for no other reason than to wear his foe down. Call that ****, I'm here to watch a fight, not some ass**le exploit rules.
     
  2. Clarkson

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    That's true to an extent and I think after 230-240 lbs the advantages of being bigger diminish rapidly but guys around 220lbs will struggle against the bigger guys unless they have a huge skill advantage.

    I think the limit would have to be below 240lbs though as most of the bigger guys could dehydrate below 240.

    I think there are too many weight classes but I think this is more relevant than some of the 3lbs differences.

    Reducing and altering the weight classes would be the best solution. Something such as;

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  3. SmackDaBum

    SmackDaBum TKO7 banned Full Member

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    No he was 6'2'' and around 205 pounds.
     
  4. _Scott_

    _Scott_ Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Povetkin is 6'2 but probably beats every heavyweight on this planet.
     
  5. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Forget adding more divisions.

    When people enter the ring below heavyweight, NO ONE is the weight they weighed in at. And there is often 10 or 15 pounds difference between two guys who made weight on fight night.

    We're already seeing it.

    If any changes were made, I'd prefer they just totally simplified it.

    Boxing's first divisions were Heavyweight, Middleweight and Lightweight. That was it.

    And that's really all you need.

    Just change it to:

    * Everyone below 150 pounds is a Lightweight.

    * Everyone below 200 pounds is a Middleweight.

    * Everyone above 200 pounds is a Heavyweight.

    Hold weigh-ins an hour before the first fight on the undercard begins, so you know how much everyone ACTUALLY weighs.

    That's it.

    Guys like Alvarez walk around at 190 anyway. He should be able to fight an Andre Ward.

    Lightweights like Linares walk around at 150. The straweights all weigh 125 by the time the bell rings, too. If you can't beat a guy who weighs 20 pounds more than you at the sound of the bell, you aren't the best anyway.

    So many fighters are winning titles in four, five and even six divisions ... so obviously the smaller weights don't need as many divisions. The best guys have already been beating people over a wide weight range. They'd still be the best in this scenario.

    Just limit it to three divisions and be done with it.

    These divisions weren't added for SAFETY, anyway. They were added to hold more championship fights and collect more sanctioning fees.

    That's why there are THREE divisions within SEVEN pounds at the bottom end of the scale. That's insane.

    If we're going to make a change ... just change it back to THREE divisions.

    Big, medium, small.

    Heavyweight, middleweight, lightweight.
     
  6. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Its by ratio of weight & it fixes the annoying 4 lbs discrepancy between 108 & 112 without wiping out the historic 112 division, Math is not your thing :smoke

    105, 107, 109 (2lb skip)
    112, 115, 118 (3lb skip)
    122, 126, 130 (4lb skip)
    135, 140, 145, 150, 155, 160 (5lb skip)
    167, 175, 185, 200, 220, 245 (progressive surge)
     
  7. N17

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    I think they could stretch the weight divisions a little, CW could be upped by 7lb and work down like that.
     
  8. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You don't need NINE DIVISIONS within 25 pounds (105-130). The 105-pounders weigh 120 pounds or so when the bell rings. It's all fake.

    When boxing moved the weigh ins back a day and a half (36 hours+) before a fight, it rendered most weight divisions meaningless, because no one was at the same weight when the fights began.

    The guys who weighed 122 pounds 36 hours before are weighing in in the 140 pound range when the bell rings.

    The weight classes, particularly in the smallest division, are a complete joke.

    Just let them all train, get in the best shape possible, and show up to the arena to weigh in before the fights begin.

    All the very best fighers will still be all the very best fighters.

    Floyd and Manny would've still been the best over the last decade below 150.

    Kovalev, Ward, Golovkin would still be the best fighters between 151 and 200.

    It doesn't need to be broken down into three pounds between divisions. If you can't beat someone three pounds heavier than you are, you aren't among the best fighters in the world anyway.
     
  9. eltirado

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    YDKSAB :smoke

    Draining is one important part of the sport...Watching guys starve & abuse their body to make lbs is admirable.

    Knowing that men out there are controlling their dopamine addiction to carbs is so admirable...Stop pushing the Dan Rafael agenda (the creme & fast food lobby) :nono
     
  10. des3995

    des3995 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No need really, not enough guys to stock it. Just raise the CW weight limit which would allow for the smaller HWs to compete there.
     
  11. FilipMNE

    FilipMNE Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He is top 3 for sure, could be the best...skills people skills! :hey
     
  12. ki_ote

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    No. 6'3 about 212-218 in his prime.
     
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  14. Enigmadanks

    Enigmadanks Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If there was a lot more talent that were 250lbs+, than maybe.

    But there's few top tier fighters that are THAT big who are HW's. And like many have mentioned, all of them have been hurt by much smaller men.

    It wasn't too long ago that Fury was dropped by a flush shot from Cunningham who was a long standing CW fighter.
     
  15. Enigmadanks

    Enigmadanks Boxing Addict Full Member

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