Pirog's legacy gets better and better

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Winky Wright, Dec 6, 2015.


  1. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    That's likely part of the problem right there, IMO - perhaps the single biggest culprit in why it became career-ending.

    Chiropractic is utter quackery and pseudoscience, and dangerous. Nobody should use it, ever, and no qualified physician will ever refer someone to see a chiropractor any more than one might refer a patient to a homeopath or "crystal healing therapist" with the expectation of resolving symptoms.
     
  2. CST80

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    My mother went a chiropractor for years when I was a kid, it never helped her one bit she finally went to the doctor and they found out she had a benign wrapped around her lower spine. Most back problems are either caused by a legitimate injury or they're psycho-somatic.
     
  3. plank46

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    you mean the rumour you just started?
     
  4. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    ...or caused by chiropractors' reckless manipulation of their spines in treatment of minor, routine discomfort. :-(
     
  5. CST80

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    People have died and had strokes after going to those quacks.:verysad
     
  6. The Smoking Man

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    What kind of chiropractor wouldn't be able to spot a tumour like that?

    Actually 85% of all lower back pain no cause can be nailed down, more than likely phychological pain
     
  7. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Chiropractors are not doctors. They are dangerous quacks with no foundation in any hard science and do not have the endorsement of any real licensed practitioners of conventional Western medicine.
     
  8. CST80

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    A really really ****ty one in North Miami.

    And on the second point, that's what I was referring to when I said psycho-somatic
     
  9. The Smoking Man

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    Leaves a bad taste though. I have gone to an osteopath before when I was younger with terrible chronic back pain and he completely fixed me in two sessions with little manipulation after months of suffering and osteopaths are considered by some to be quacks

    I'm a physiotherapy student so I know how hard to nail down back pain can be
     
  10. The Smoking Man

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    If done simple massage on people before and told people that they need to get unexplained small lumps checked out. How someone can't spot something like that is beyond me. We also have a red/yellow flag system in place which takes all patient circumstances into account to rule out more serious issues.

    I personally hate dealing with backs becuase even if you spot and correct issues and give all the perfect advice the pain might still be there due to phychological pain. With back pain you need a more holistic approach and a focus on ergonomics. However in an elite athletes case that's not very helpful
     
  11. CST80

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    Its located behind the spine, in order to remove it they would have had to go in through the front and partially displaced her intestines, and break apart her spine and risked paralyzing her, she opted for radiation to shrink it. Thankfully that worked and its stopped growing and is manageable now.
     
  12. The Smoking Man

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    Good to know. Iv a real feeling that health care in the usa is like the wild west with not too many regulations . In Britian the NHS is quiet rigid and there's a lot of things I don't like about the system but if a patient comes in with an issue I know our examinations are pretty great at making sure there's no major issues
     
  13. CST80

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    You're somewhat right, its a mess, people have to break their necks to find affordable insurance then the majority of doctors won't take the insurance that you can actually afford, its nightmarish for many. I've had at least 4 family members die because of infections they picked up in the hospitals that aren't being adequately sterilized and currently one of my cousins is in the hospital with an infection in her colon from surgery she got two weeks ago.:-(
     
  14. The Smoking Man

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    That sounds horrible, I come from a country that doesn't have free health care but apart from that the service is quiet good

    Here in the uk though the NHS does everything and everything is free. However it leads to a sense of entitlement from everyone that the service will do everything for them. I don't think they realise how amazing completely free health care is and completely take it for granted
     
  15. CST80

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    I come from a country where when the majority of the population hears the words free health care they think we'll be turned into a socialist Stalinist dictatorship that will lead to grain being confiscated by the government, and all of our incomes being confiscated and given Mexican immigrants, guns and religion banned and FEMA Camps (look them up) being opened up and everyone be rounded up and herded into them like cattle.:lol: