Fighter of the Year 2015

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  1. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    Mayweather or Fury? They each have one stellar win and one completely average one. Hammer and Berto are meaningless, so you're basically putting Klitschko and Pacquiao up against Román González with the 1-2 punch of Sosa and Viloria (forgetting about Valentín León as he's more worthless than Hammer or Berto). Neither of them is as big a coup as Klitschko or Pacquiao, but having two of such excellent caliber ought to have González nosed ahead of both Mayweather and Fury. You can't tell me that either old, gun-shy Wlad or fading Pac with his own trigger-pulling issues by themselves are better than Sosa and Viloria combined. That's just ludicrous.

    Let's even be generous and say on a scale of ten both Klitschko and Pacquiao, despite being past it and ripe for the picking, still rate a "9". Sosa and Viloria are both eights, Sosa at worst 7½ and Viloria maybe 8½. Even if you give Mayweather and Fury an extra "4" each for Berto and Hammer, 16 > 13, sorry.
     
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    Canelo sits in the same boat as Mayweather and Fury - one big win over Cotto but only supported by Kirkland.

    Golovkin is González's nearest competition, with three solid feathers in his cap, though none on the level of a Viloria (let alone Pac or Klit).

    You could argue Murray is probably a "7", Lemieux and Monroe each a 5½. (due to Monroe's greenness and Lemieux's one-dimensionality). So you could say Golovkin has eighteen to González's sixteen, if we consider León so insignifcant as to not warrant an integer or two. :think
     
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    TSoprano Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Tyson Fury easily.
     
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    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    For beating an old timid champ that already exhibited signs of being ready to give up the ghost against Jennings, plus Christian Hammer?

    Do you even know who Edgar Sosa and Brian Viloria are, or understand the magnitude of dominating them?
     
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    abuffy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This isn't what my original argument was aiming towards at all. I said who is fighting in the next 3 weeks that could supersede the names on that list, Fury, Mayweather or, for your sake, Gonzalez?

    Also, Fury and Pacquiao were high-profile fights. Huge, high-profile fights (Though, May/Pac was 10x bigger than Fury/Wlad, Fury/Wlad is still 10x bigger than Viloria or Sosa/Gonzalez). Plus, Wlad and Pac's individual accomplishments over their career still mean something to me, so I take that into account for whoever beat them as well.
     
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    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    Honestly you could find a place for Jacobs, going on cumulative body of work. Give him 2 or 3 points for Truax, 5 or 6 for Mora and 8 for Quillin and he stands at potentially 17 without a single win anywhere near the caliber of Klit/Pac/Viloria.

    People just assume the Fighter of the Year has to have the best individual W of the year. Not the case, necessarily, if that is all they did and others have piled up lesser but still good W's that add up to more.
     
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    I know, I got on a tangent when you suggested Mayweather and Fury ought to be the frontrunners of the BWAA candidates. :D

    This is what remains on the schedule, from the Fuentes vs. Rodríguez Jr. thread:

    Granted, nothing on there really pops as giving any of those names a chance to be in the F'er-OTY running, no matter how spectularly they do what.

    Still, as Lenny Kravitz said, it ain't over til it's over, so on principle we shouldn't be doing this until January 1st.
     
  8. abuffy

    abuffy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well, the BWAA nominees are finalized, and since none of them will be fighting in the next 3 weeks... technically it is over:lol:
     
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    Gonzalez
     
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    icarus1 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    what's good for the sport are the performances of golovkin and gonzales for the year. both showed the greatness of fighting but gonzales have the better opposition. floyd and fury had just one each good opponents but their performances in their fights are sub-par to boxing greatness which were just won on the score cards. canelo does not compete with the four.
     
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    acie2g Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    1.Gonzalez(for his consistency vs top opposition) or Fury(win over Wlad is the best this year).

    2.Mayweather(could arguably win it Pacquiao was P4P #2 and #2WW an Berto on the low is better than alot of guys best wins).
    3.Canelo(Cotto was the 2nd biggest fight this year and Kirkland is a decent 10-15# JMW).
    4.Golovkin(others could really be here as Monroe doesn't really rate, Murray is decent, and Lemieux is good because he was technically a Champ so unification regardless is always good).

    Kinda hard to pick between Gonzalez an Fury, right now wanna say Fury just to to the surprising nature and possibly upset of the year as well.
     
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    Chocolatito only has 13.82% of the vote. :verysad

    Boxing fans DKSAB.
     
  13. Pimp C

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    PBF or Fury
     
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    34.62% of GGG fanboys DKSAB

    Fury, Gonzalez or possibly Floyd are the only legitimate options here.
     
  15. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    So you are ahead of GGG by beating a guy who has the testicular fortitude to throw an average of 1.5 punches per round?


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