Wilder is losing excuses and defenders

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  1. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    I do think Wilder's a joke. The guy is calling out Shannon ****ing Briggs for god's sake. I also think Glazkov with his numerous dubious wins isn't much cop as a supposedly 'top contender' either.

    He know's he can pick up the 60k (I think it'd be much more than that but we were discussing a worst case scenario) and then ask Wilder for much, much more than 250k for a unification fight. If you don't think he beats Martin then obviously that's not a very good plan but otherwise I understand why he wants to out-Wilder, Deontay Wilder and take the path of least resistance.

    I don't agree with it - Fury should be allowed to rematch Wlad - I think both Wilder and Glazkov are making a mockery of the heavyweight division.
     
  2. XCalibur79

    XCalibur79 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    There are some things Wilder's team has done that I don't like. Among them:

    1. Takam for whatever reason doesn't seem to be on his radar. Neither does Chisora. I don't like that.

    2. I don't know why a Jennings fight didn't materialize either, I'm sort of iffy on that but its hard to imagine Wilder being afraid of him too when he is not a big puncher and has only 20 fights.

    3. Molina was a bad title defense no question. He could have done better than that. But Duhaupus is slightly underrated, and the circumstances surrounding that selection were somewhat more understandable.

    4. Adamek should never have been considered, that was no doubt disgraceful.

    Other than that, I don't think there is much to fault team Wilder for, with a possible Briggs fight this would be his fourth or fifth choice after others who have fell through. Shannon Briggs would be a forgiveable choice under these circumstances IMHO, if the alternative is Stiverne 2 or Wawrzyk.
     
  3. XCalibur79

    XCalibur79 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Briggs is calling Wilder out, has been for awhile. If Briggs kept his mouth shut he wouldn't even be on Wilder's radar.
     
  4. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Nice to see the Wilder nuthuggers out in full force in his defense... Apparently fighting another bum is OK because several opponents refused **** offers to fight on short notice for a world title. Pathetic.
     
  5. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    If you weren't a Wilder nuthugger you'd see the extremely obvious reason. :deal
     
  6. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Molina was bad. Duhaupas was fine, I agree with you on both accounts. And Glazkov would've been fine, too, but Glazkov BAILED.

    Wilder can just say screw it I won't fight until May when Povetkin is ready.

    Would that be better? Is not fighting better?

    If he wants to stay busy, I'm all for it. I want him to fight Povetkin in April or May. (Why Povetkin needed A YEAR between knocking out Perez and fighting Wilder I have no freaking idea. Did he really need the Wach "tuneup?")

    But I'd much rather see champs stay busy and fight than sit around for eight months or a year between fights.

    If Wilder fights in January, he'll have fought THREE TIMES while Povetkin took one tuneup and took time off, and pushed stuff back.

    If we're looking at which strategy I prefer, I prefer watching boxing instead of WAITING for boxing.

    And I don't think you're looking very hard if you think it's the worst two defenses in a row. Not good, true. The worst ever, no. There are too many to mention. Terry Daniels and Ron Stander were pretty bad. Matt Skelton and Carl Davis Drummond were pretty bad. Cedric Boswell and Marco Huck weren't anything to write home about, and Huck almost won.

    Hell, maybe Wilder should fight Glowacki? He's better than Huck.:good
     
  7. XCalibur79

    XCalibur79 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You're basically extreme in the other direction. You look for every reason to bash this guy, even if it means going beyond what you actually know.
     
  8. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    But he still has nuthuggers.
     
  9. TerryESB

    TerryESB The Final Boss Full Member

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    Wilder has too bad of a record. You have to give Glazkov the benefit of the doubt. Every f'n fight it is TBA, then they use the excuse for fighting a bum that it is was on short notice.

    Quit waiting until the last minute to have a fight signed every fight!
    Quit sending insulting and ridiculous offers with no time for fighters to prepare.
    Quit bottom feeding.


    FFS they fought Jason Gavern last year on a televised fight. The guy has 20 losses. Wilders handlers do this every fight.
     
  10. XCalibur79

    XCalibur79 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The Gavern fight was nothing more than a tune up before his title shot.
     
  11. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Who did they send an insulting offer to? Who was insulted and what was the offer?
     
  12. XCalibur79

    XCalibur79 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Honestly, the more I think about it, the more I think Jennings and his handlers may have been the ones more responsible for that fight not happening.

    I think perhaps they realized that Jennings fought Wlad to early in his career. He survived it and looked decent, but it was against a somewhat lethargic Wlad.

    I think they wanted to take a step back and get Jennings some more experience against some fringe contenders before they risked him getting busted up against a heavy hitter like Wilder.

    I am only speculating of course, but to me it makes more sense than Wilder being scared of Jennings.
     
  13. TerryESB

    TerryESB The Final Boss Full Member

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    No more bums. Lets be honest. Gavern is not fit to be a sparring partner for someone preparing for a 'title shot' muchless a televised on national tv fight. There is no point of a fight that bad.
     
  14. Dubblechin

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    Anthony Joshua is the #2 WBC contender. He fought Gavern six months ago on national television.:roll:
     
  15. TerryESB

    TerryESB The Final Boss Full Member

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    Hughie Fury. Hughie had no time to train. Duphuoas took that fight for 100 K or whatever it was. Team Fury is getting ****ed off with these bull**** unprofessional offers.