Wilder is losing excuses and defenders

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  1. Mr Icaman

    Mr Icaman 32-0 WBC Champ, Ring + Lineal HW Champ Full Member

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    Bottom line Wilder is a joke if he keeps fighting cans.. I care the reason or bla bla bla he should drop this ****ty event and focus on his mandatory.

    Pointless watching him smashing over matched opponents when he could focus on smashing his mandatory. He had plenty of time to work out a March - April fight but his team choose to go for these bum events..
     
  2. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Hopefully he faces Szpilka, because unlike the other no hopes he's faced Szpilka at least has a punchers chance. Well.... anyone has a punchers chance against Wilder as Molina proved, but Szpilka has a better chance than they do. :lol:

    Two hard hitting glass jawed heavyweights going at it. This is what HW boxing is all about :deal
     
  3. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    May wasn't an exact date for the offer, Wilder could've taken it in may or september. But there WAS an official offer and Wilder could've taken it instead of Molina. And again, I'm okay with Wilder taking another voluntary defence as long as It's against someone DECENT like Jennings or Takam.
     
  4. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    They signed to fight their tune-ups around the same time. Wilder made himself available , in accordance with the WBC rules , to enter into negotiations to fight Povetkin.

    Povetkin did not make himself available and then said he's gone till mid 2016. What can't you understand about that?

    Povetkin never should have fought Wach . He'd be the Jan opponent if he didn't.

    Stervine waited over a year without a fight as Vitali's mandatory. Khan wouldn't take an opponent hoping to get Mayweather...Povetkin had the fight right there in his hands , he should have his mandatory status revoked for ineptitude.
     
  5. theanatolian

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    Wilder's Sept. 26th defence was scheduled WEEKS before Povetkin vs Wach announced. Yes, maybe Ryabinsky could've forced the fight for january but after their offers for two dates rejected, he decided to make the fight for the spring of 2016. He even said that Povetkin is willing to go to states for it, that %90 It'll be in US. Again, Iı've no problem with Wilder taking another voluntary as long as it's against a live body.
     
  6. dmille

    dmille We knew, about Tszyu, before you. Full Member

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  7. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    The WBC ARE FORCING THE FIGght. Binsky doesn't have to.

    They weren't going to allow Wilder another defence but only did so because the mandatory challenger went AWOL.
     
  8. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes, the fight could've made in january but it didn't fit the Povetkin's prompter's agenda. Maybe It's not exactly right but It is what it is.
     
  9. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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  10. XCalibur79

    XCalibur79 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Well it just depends on how you define 'struggling'.
     
  11. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Get rocked by a left hook, and dropping rounds to an over-matched opponent that was stolen from green prospect Parker... In what was supposed to be a routine fight for him ends up being a grueling affair that went into the championship rounds where he was left with a puffy face. Those fights weren't exactly cake walks for him that's for sure.
     
  12. XCalibur79

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    They were pretty much one sided beatings of two game opponents, one of who was known to have a cast iron jaw.

    Neither constituted struggling.
     
  13. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Sorry. I have to call bullsh*t on this.

    Povetkin's promoter sends out a press release in January offering 10 million euros to fight in May to a guy who just broke his hand. I can send out a press release offering a guy 10 million euros to fight if I know he has a broken hand and can't fight, too. We all can. It means nothing.

    Why not offer Wilder 10 million euros (in May or June) to fight in September or January?

    Did the 10 million euros go away? What happened to it? They didn't use it on a purse bid. They certainly didn't give it to Mike Perez, the guy who did fight in May.

    Povetkin fought in May for about two minutes. He should've been ready to fight right away. He was fit. I don't even think he got hit.

    He had from May to September to get ready for a Wilder fight, while Wilder would have to fight Molina and prepare for his September defense.

    Wilder said after he fought Molina in July that he'd defend his title in September and January. And he kept his word. He fought in July. He fought in September. He's doing his best to fight in January.

    But Povetkin's team didn't offer Wilder 10 million euros when Wilder's hand was healed. They didn't offer him 10 million euros for a September fight. They didn't offer him 10 million euros for a January fight. They didn't wait for the purse bids. Because they were never going to pay him 10 million euros.

    Instead, IN AUGUST, Povetkin's team announced Povetkin was fighting in freaking NOVEMBER.

    If they were so eager to fight Wilder, why did he wait to schedule the fight until November, and then tell the WBC they didn't have time to prepare for a January date 11 or 12 weeks away?

    Because they aren't eager.

    I think they, like everyone here, thought Wilder was going to dump the WBC belt for some "PBC title" ... and instead, Wilder has kept the WBC belt.

    I don't think they've ever seriously wanted to fight Wilder. Al Haymon works with international promoters all the time. If one of them legitimately offered Wilder $12.7 million U.S. to fight a mandatory, he'd be all over it. That's $12 million he wouldn't have to pay Wilder or fork over to buy time on the networks.

    Povetkin's appears to be no better than Glazkov. By the looks of it, he appears to be waiting it out hoping to get a vacant title shot down the line somewhere. But that damn Deontay Wilder keeps defending the belt. Gosh darn it.:good
     
  14. theanatolian

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    Wilder fought Molina in June, which means he was healed. Since he was healed, why didn't they take the 10 Mil. offer for June? The offer didn't involve an exact date and Wilder's team openly stated he wasn't ready for Povetkin when the offer was made. And I repeat, Povetkin COULDN'T get the september date because Wilder's 26 September was scheduled in EARLY JULY and which was almost two months before Povetkin-Wach scheduled and WBC stated they wouldn't order the purse bids until OCTOBER despite Povetkin's camp talking about how badly they've been trying to make the fight all summer.

    I admit that Wilder has the right to take a voluntary in January but you seem to be unable to understand Povetkin and his team tried but COULDN'T get Wilder for May, Jun, July or September of 2015.

    I even made a thread about Povetkin needing a stay busy fight in EARLY JULY because It was clear as day that he wasn't getting Wilder in 2015.
     
  15. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    :patsch:rofl Are you serious dude????

    Molina is not a 'game' opponent for a HW world champion. In fact he was literally plucked from a nearly agreed to fight with prospect Joseph Parker! Duhaupas isn't really ideal either but he's at least a little bit better than Molina.

    Say what you want but Wilder did not have an easy time with those guys even if he was 'in control' for the most part. Anything but an impressive performance on both occasions from the so called world champion.