Fighter of the Year 2015

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by abuffy, Dec 6, 2015.


  1. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    :thumbsup

    Co-sign.
     
  2. Gannicus

    Gannicus 2014 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    I felt it was a two horse race between Mayweather and Fury.

    1. Roman Gonzalez was made P4P no.1 by virtue of Mayweather retiring, not by Mayweather losing the spot so as to say Gonzalez surpassed him, or that Gonzalez had certain victories that pushed Mayweather off the top.

    2. Roman Gonzalez's win against Leon is not worth mentioning. It is just a stay busy fight, that leaves us with Viloria and Sosa. Two great achievements, but Sosa it's fair to say is past his best, and to a smaller extent, the 35 year old Viloria. This is not to take away from the victories of Roman. However, not being their best affects them more than it affected Wladmir as I alluded to in my previous post.

    These were expected victories by the heavy favourite Roman, who had 42 wins and now 7 years at the very top of the divisions he fought in.
    Not many thought that Fury (carrying forward the points made in my previous post) would be able to outthink Dr. Wlad. No one assumed Fury would win in a cerebral battle. If they were giving Fury a chance, they thought Fury would only be able to take it by being 'the young fighter who comes to rough Wladmir up'. We got none of that.

    Fury had just beaten the dominant HW ATG champion who barely dropped a round in the last 10 years. I'm the type of person who thinks that a win against prime Felix Trinidad and Steroided Mosley, 2 GREATS, says more for ones greatness/resume/abilities than wins over Cotto, Canelo, Corrales and Hatton.

    For Roman, we need to see him against Estrada, Inoue and Ruenroeng. Roman has the potential to be the greatest flyweight in the last 50 years.
     
  3. Gannicus

    Gannicus 2014 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Yes, this :good
     
  4. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Do you really consider the version of WK that fought Fury a better fighter p4p than the very game version of Viloria that fought Chocolatito, though? Compare a prime, mid-reign Klitschko with that version of Klitschko - night and day. Compare an unbeaten Viloria (someone that has flirted with p4p lists himself many times, over a long period) with the one that fought Chocolatito this year - very little difference.
     
  5. StealthUppercut

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    How are you judging 'that' Klitschko? Why are you so sure that the reason he didn't look so bad against Fury was because Fury made him look bad?
     
  6. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    He also looked significantly diminished versus Jennings. Viloria meanwhile had just annihilated Soto (whose record is ugly but anyone that follows the lighter weights know he's decent, especially to have that done to him...faster than Chocolatito himself did the job)
     
  7. StealthUppercut

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    How about the argument that he looked bad against both Jennings and Fury because... they move alot, and they knew had to take his jab away (the reason Thompson had so much success back in the day). The fight previous to that was one of his best performances ever, and people were saying that was the best ever Klitschko. Only two fights later and he's suddenly badly faded? :think
     
  8. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Show me one person that said Pulev was the "best ever Klitschko".

    Best in a while, might have been said.. (as thrashing Leapai didn't require much of him, and the Povetkin affair was so ugly)
     
  9. StealthUppercut

    StealthUppercut Member Full Member

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    I can't post links, but google 'pulev best ever klitschko' and you will find article on bleacherreport.com the title is: Wladimir Klitschko looking better than ever after KO win against Kubrat Pulev

    There were also a host of people saying the same thing on here too, and for good reason it was clearly one of his most impressive victories.
     
  10. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    I don't know IB. You're making fair points, but in my mind it's Fury, and if he had lost to Wlad, I'm betting it would have been Floyd (OR if Floyd-Pac had happened later this year as opposed to mid-year).

    I think Fury's a lock - and even if your argument was logically flawless - shakeups in the sport's marquee division, for better or worse, tend to resonate well with fans and media alike.

    To clarify, I do think Fury deserves it because dethroning Wlad in the manner he did (even if Wlad has shown decline in recent fights), was something special to me. But even if my personal opinion was invalid for whatever reason, I still think historical evidence would suggest Fury's got to be the front runner.
     
  11. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    My thoughts exactly which is why l too voted for Fury. Winning fights you're expected to win isn't nearly as impressive as winning fights you weren't suppose to especially against someone who dominated the most important weight category for a decade. No one else comes close. And Mayweather didn't win the most important fight of the year as someone wrote, rather he won the most marketable fight of the year.

    Big difference.
     
  12. icarus1

    icarus1 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    what are titles if they got it as a gift and not on legitimate boxing action or on a very weak division and in consideration of corrupted judging? most events archived in the sport are the greatest performances of elite fighters and not the devalued titles.
     
  13. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    STILL neck and neck as Furry takes a 2 point lead following his brutal masterclass over the ferocious challenge of Wlad
     
  14. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    This is completely ridiculous

    A complete bum who beat a coward who never attempted to fight back out of fear of being hit..... beating Golovkin and Chocolatito

    Only on E th B :-(
     
  15. Eastpaw

    Eastpaw Boxing Addict Full Member

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    well may-pac was to determine who was the best fighter of the current generation. in terms of historical significance and boxing significance i'd say may-pac was a greater fight than fury-clinchko