lennox 15 th pro fight was against mason...........

Give Joshua some time. Lewis is an all time great. HOF. Let's not get carried away with comparisons. If Joshua gets stopped by a top ten HW then it is what it is. Boxing is a tough cruel sport.

Joshua is adding to the excitement. I like that

 

Pitty pat little Big Foot Martin beat Mason into retirement before Lewis ever got in the ring with him.

Lewis was an all time great, but you guys really go out of your way to make him look overrated. Mason was retired by an under sized powerless Tuesday night fight gate keeper, he was exposed as hype before Lewis padded his early record with him.

If Big Foot can take Mason to a close fight and crush his eye, forcing him to retire, Chambers would likely put a beating on him...and we are talking prime Mason, not the half blind left over Lewis got to make easy work of.

 

He won and successfully defended a title equivalent to the early 90s version of the WBO.

That said.....yes.

He has one of, if not THE BEST resume outside of Wlad in this era, and he's in line to become a 2 time titlist if/when Wilder stops ducking him.

FACT IS.....

Over a dozen higher than Mason quality HWs have tried to fulfil their potential in this era, but with a 2 headed HW machine running shiit, not really a great era to become a great in when the 2 ATGs have the entire dvision on complete lockdown.

Had Potvetkin been 5 yrs older or 5 yrs younger, he'd have won multiple titles aready and been considered a sure fire HOFer. :nono

 

now we have boxers able to surgically and skillfully detach opponents retinas.

did we all see how chris byrd was able to hurt vitalis shoulder with skillfull precision

 

Got to hand it to these boxrec warriors trying to build Mason up.

He was a domestic fighter who padded his record with cans and complete wash ups. He Got embarrassed and retired by a cruiser weight gate keeper in front of his own fans at 28 years of age.

He came back half blind for a pay day to make Lewis look good, who just jabbed his bad eye until it fell apart. All there is to it.

 

No, they usually just club them in their eye over and over...see Margarito vs Pacman.

Lewis just jabbed the already damaged eye like Cotto did in the Marg rematch.

Byrd injured Holyfields shoulder as well, by getting him and Vitali to load up and slipping them.

 

i went to the lewis v mason fight
it was a war of attrition fight
no way did lewis target an eye , his head yes but an eye !

one of masons eyes swelled up so it totally closed, it was not stopped because of his retina.

 

Exactly. Lewis was untouchable until he got to world level. As was Hamed, Benn, Eubank, even Hatton really (cuts aside).

If you are truly world class then you do not show any vulnerabilities at British level.

Another example is George Groves. The writing for him was on the wall when he had a life-and-death fight and was put on the floor at British level. We should have known right then and there that world level is beyond his durability.

Degale, whom Groves beat at British level in a razor thin decision, may have lost, but showed no weaknesses in losing. Many thought he won. That fight told us they were both good at that level and that either could push on. Many said at the time that it was more likely to be Degale despite his loss.


Joshua's chin was exposed as an amteur by the Romanian who stopped him. It was also exposed by Whyte in 2009. It was exposed again by Whyte this weekend.

I really don't need any more evidence that Joshua is ready to go when he gets hit cleanly. Like Bruno, it will take a fair few digs to get him down. But his bell can be easily rung with just one shot.

 

How close did you sit? Lol We're you intoxicated?

Mason retired with a damaged eye at just 28 years of age.

Mason leaves retirement to challenge upstart Lewis in a high profile tv bout.


Lewis jabs and hooks Mason on his damaged eye over and over until it swells up as damaged eyes are prone to doing, and the fight is forced to stop. The commentary notes Lewis targeting the eye and Masons retina trouble.

Mason retires once more at the ripe age of 29 with eye trouble.

Your conclusion: the eye was not a factor.

 

Yes it's ridiculous to start comparing him to Lewis so early on and lets not forget Lewis started boxing while much younger and had a very extensive amateur career going to 2 Olympics, it's unlikely Joshua will match Lewis' achievements, very few boxers have.

 

When Lewis was training ahead of the Mason fight Lewis' sparring partners had a cross above the eye on their headguards which Lewis would target in the actual fight.

It says this in Lewis' 1990s autobiography, if I recall correctly.

 

Absolutely...

It was a good strategy any sensible fighter would employ



And Lewis fans on this site are nuts lol

 

Lewis win over Mason was a very good win and one I would rate above any of Joshuas at this time, but overall in 15 fights would probably say Joshua at a glance with wins over Whyte, Sprott, Skelton, Chambers, but that could be because they are more recent in the memory

 

i was on the upper teir /always tried to get seats there in wembley about £25 from memory about 20 feet above ring level great view.

i wanted lewis to win, but mason made it an uncomfertable night took and gave some big shots.
mason had big neanderthal eyebrow ridges and one of them closed over.

the retina was a factor in him retireing , he could have gone blind, but did it effect his performance v lewis/nope his lack of mobilty and height meant lewis dictated the exchanes but mason proved he could mix it up well /take a big punch from lewis and land on lewis/ albeit it was not the finished product of lewis he fought.

 

It's been noted Lewis prepared by practicing punching at his sparring partners eye, it was the strategy. You denied this, you were wrong.

Of course Mason not being a very good fighter to begin with was a factor, it was big foot who messed him up in the first place. but his bad eye gave Lewis a target and means of easy victory. It was a critical factor in the match.