Pacqiuao in the 2000's. Possible stamina PED's?

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  1. scarecrow

    scarecrow Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm not saying Pacquiao was ever on PED's. A lot of my friends in real life say that he's been on them.

    There is no evidence that he was ever really on them.

    His knockouts literally have just stopped for the last 6 years. I think someone who was on PED's could get some KO's.

    But early in his career I find very suspect. For a really simple reason. I've never seen anybody ever throw bomb after bomb after bomb. He just came nonstop the entire fight with showing no intentions of ever slowing down.

    I've never seen anybody throw so many hard straights, lateral movement and head movement out of the high guard. The high guard with head movement is much more tiring than low guard head movement. And straights are much more tiring than hooks to the body. Back in his days at feather and superfeather is what I'm talking about. He just never stopped. It's got to be a little suspect.

    This was most obvious during the first Barrera fight. I've never seen anybody just keep coming like that using the high guard and just refuse to run out of gas. It was all a little strange.
     
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  2. californicator

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    There have been others before manny, and there will be ones after him that have similar skill sets.
     
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  3. DeadLikeMe

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    Obvious blood doper and HGH abuser. Just look at the Barry Bonds pumpkin head on that fella.
     
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  4. scarecrow

    scarecrow Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Are you sure? I've never seen anybody like Pacquiao at 126-130. He just never stopped. Have you ever seen somebody throw straights and use head movement like that out of the high guard?

    Again I'm not even saying he was on stamina PED's. But it's strange that he could just keep going like that.
     
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  5. Imperial1

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    He was well hydrated back then :D
     
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  7. YesMySon

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    Manny has questionable weight gain in his career.
     
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  8. scarecrow

    scarecrow Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yea that's irrelevant to the thread.
     
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  9. jamescomeback

    jamescomeback Active Member Full Member

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    id say he was on the toradol for a good few fights
     
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  10. Just Rik

    Just Rik Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Exactly, his refusal to take stringent testing for the fight he wanted most and the most lucrative, then what he did to Clottey after and while in the midst of this suspicion really drove it home for me. Actually, it's really quite interesting because what he did to Clottey falls exactly in line with what another cheat did to Clotttey, Margarito. They both threw over a thousand punches on Clottey and looked like non stop machines.

    The difference is that since Margarito had bricks doing the heavy lifting for him he was able to conserve energy by not having to throw that hard. Which is not the case for Pac. Pac had to throw with great force the entire time to keep Clottey shelled up, so where did he get this energy?? Years of ducking stringent testing, unlimited stamina, and Freddie now all but admitting he was using should really leave no doubt on anyone's mind.
     
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  11. scarecrow

    scarecrow Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I thought about Margarito too. Because he had that similar nonstop stamina thing going on.

    Except Pacquiao was even worse.
     
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  12. YesMySon

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    whats relevant is that you don't even know that the word "amphetimine" exist.

    "stamina PED". I mean it works, but come one man. Use some effort around here.

    Anyway, This reminds me of the Panama Lewis/Pryor fiasco. wonder if something similar was going on with pacquia.
     
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  13. YesMySon

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    Maybe, but consider Manny was wlling to go to court to prove his innocence. SO I don't know if it is that obvious.

    At the same time, however, we have him refusing COMPLETELY a blood tests.

    why would you go so far to defend yourself and prove your innoncnce but have such strange reasons for avoiding blood testing.

    the whole scenario doesnt make sense to me.

    maybe manny didnt know what he was on? Maybe he was advised to refuse the blood test by his team so they could further cover it up?

    The more I see it the more it seems Manny has been a pawn and not the wizard in the scenario
     
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  14. scarecrow

    scarecrow Boxing Addict Full Member

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    "Stamina PED" is much easier to understand than "amphetminine". Everybody knows what I mean and that was the point.

    Yes Pryor is probably the closest I've seen to Pacquiao as far as the endless machine and stamina thing.
     
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  15. PIPO23

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    Iv void is clean.
     
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