Pacqiuao in the 2000's. Possible stamina PED's?

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  1. boyschoir

    boyschoir Boxing Addict Full Member

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    they were not bombs.....according to Floyd fanatics....he was unleashing punches on bums! has beens! drained at catchweights!

    on the other hand.....you won't get a clean answer from them....:rofl

    your conclusion will be PAC needed PED's to beat old fighters :rofl:rofl:rofl
     
  2. Holy Grail

    Holy Grail Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There's more evidence and suspicions of PED use for Floyd (Ariza, Memo, IV, unnaturally low T/E ratio, TMT fighters getting caught, etc) and Juan Marquez than Pac
     
  3. prelude

    prelude Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Oh forgot we were talking about PAC and not 128 years old Floyd.
     
  4. megavolt

    megavolt Constantly Shadowboxing Full Member

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    Right? Same with Mayweather, how could he run a marathon around the ring all night against Corrales.. they are definitely both PED cheaters but Floyd also did the fluid and TRT treatments
     
  5. scarecrow

    scarecrow Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Floyd against Corrales is not comparable. That's because all that jogging Floyd did was aerobic and could be sustained easily.

    Pac was a high octane action packed non stop machine. So I question how he could keep that up without some type of PED.
     
  6. Steve_Fox

    Steve_Fox Well-Known Member Full Member

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    he obviously took peds.
    why the hell you think he refused to be tested to fight floyd
     
  7. YesMySon

    YesMySon Well-Known Member Full Member

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    we werent talking about age 19, we were talking about age 15.

    Tyson , Beneitiz, Patterson to answer your quesiton BTW plus more
     
  8. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    I'm sure there are tons of top boxers on some form of PED. Wouldn't surprise if Pac turned out dirty too.
     
  9. YesMySon

    YesMySon Well-Known Member Full Member

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    because hes afraid of needles and floyd knew it!

    MANNY REFUSING A BLOOD TEST IS NOT PROOF HE WAS ON PEDS


    FLOYD IS THE CHEATER NOT MANNY


    Am I doing it right?
     
  10. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Pacquiao was not really on top at 19 or 15. He was getting outboxed badly by Sasakul because he was green. He had a puncher's chance and caught him for the title. And he was knocked out twice by club fighters when he was green because that's what happens when you're not ready yet.

    His prime was 22-30 from Ledwaba until Cotto. His peak was from 24-29 from the first Barrera fight until the second Marquez fight.
     
  11. YesMySon

    YesMySon Well-Known Member Full Member

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    yeah thats the point.
     
  12. icarus1

    icarus1 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    precisely. pac was a very limited fighter but with a powerful left when he started so he invested in stamina and speed in order to keep unloading bombs because he only has a punchers chance. he gradually improved with experiences of fighting top caliber fighters and with freddie's guidance. review his history first before inserting peds accusation. unless there is even a small proof.
     
  13. scarecrow

    scarecrow Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If you actually examined Pacquiaos style it's obvious that he fought like a total machine.

    He just threw 1,000 bombs until they went down. And added in enough movement that he wasn't a sitting duck.

    Move, bomb, move, bomb, move, bomb. That's all he really did.
     
  14. this_and_that

    this_and_that Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Do note that the version of Pacquiao that we're talking about here did "take the tests", one of which resulted to the now iconic excuse that he made when he lost to Morales (2006).

    Now if you suddenly take high dosage of IV fluids, hid in your home while at it, have rather inconsistent hormone levels against your age and physical activity, then a governing body would shut up about it until after a huge fight (all the while said governing body/bodies going ape sh%t on your opponent's similar request), then yeah, let's start talking PED's.:hey
     
  15. this_and_that

    this_and_that Boxing Addict Full Member

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    And he was able to do it in WW still (vs Clottey, 2010).
    That is more suspect if you ask me than the 2000's Pacquiao.