Primo Carnera vs Tyson Fury

The following fighters were ranked in the top ten when Carnera fought them:

King Levinsky
Earnie Schaff
Jack Sharkey
Tommy Loughran
Max Baer
Ray Impelletiere
Joe Louis
Walter Neusell
Leroy Haynes

Art Lasky might have been ranked when Carnera fought him, but I am not sure.

Neither Chisora nor Cunnigham has ever been ranked in the top ten at heavyweight.

 

And what is his record vs those fighters.

Just because you keep saying they weren't doesn't make it true. Chisora was top ten until his Fury loss. Cunningham is to ten right now. As is Wlad. Johnson was top ten until losing to Vitali. Vs these opponents Fury is 5-0.

At worst his resume stacks up against Carnera's, at best it ****s all over it.

 

November 2014
Heavyweight
Champion: Wladimir Klitschko
1. Alexander Povetkin
2. Kubrat Pulev
3. Tyson Fury
4. Bermane Stiverne
5. Carlos Takam
6. Deontay Wilder
7. Vyacheslav Glazkov
8. Dereck Chisora
9. Bryant Jennings
10. Steve Cunningham

Fury is 4-0 vs fighters listed in these rankings.

Can Carnera ever claim such a record at any point in history?

 

Whose ranking is this?

 

TBRB.

Carnera doesn't have a historically great resume despite being world level for a number of years. It's bad enough going off the numbers 6-3 isn't exactly inspiring. It's even worse when looking at the men he beat.

As I said you get Tyson's best 4 victories: Wlad, Chisora, Cunningham, Johnson.

Get Carnera's best 4. Whomever you want. They don't read as good as Fury's do.

 

The magazine has completely different owners, editorial staff and panel members now. In fact some prominent panel members quite the ring magazine in outrage due to some policy changes.

To be fair and consistent we need only discuss how many ranked opponents each man beat, although I repeat that is no the only measure of resume.

There is nothing arbitrary about using the rankings supported by the very site I am having a boxing debate on, why would I "want" these results? How does Fury having a better resume in any way, shape or form, improve my life? It doesn't. It is an opinion I have because of these rankings, I don't use these rankings because of my opinion.

Your system is not consistent, you can't be consistent because the same people aren't compiling the rankings. The very title being contested is totally different also. Not to mention the difference in weight class. There is no such thing here are true consistency. There I just the records of two fighters who have been the HW champion and a comparison being made the next century after the fact.

 

I still think Fury wins regardless of who was ranked when.

 

yes you do,


LOL

 

Which Carnera fight leads you to believe he's a favourite to beat Fury?

What is it about Carnera's style that makes you think he will defeat Fury?

Which parts of Primo's game are tilted to exploit the holes in Fury's defence?

 

Off the top, I would go with Carnera, but, quite frankly, I am not sure which fights he really won on his own and which were in the bag for him. The second Sharkey fight for example. If that one was on the level, I would go with Primo. He had decent power, was incredibly strong, very game, and for a big man, good stamina. Also, he never entered the ring fat, which I admire about him.