How come TBE needed iv, give me a reasonable explanation

Same here.
I don't get how people can overlook this.
JMM was highly suspicious of PED usage during that time. And it clearly showed in the ring.
I mean first KD in all 4 fights? With Memo on your side? You know, that man who HAD to change his name to put his doping history somewhat behind him. Then you're supposed to get much stronger at 40? C'mon.
The acne was only icing in the cake.

Not giving FMJ a pass here but of course he was masking something.
The T/E ratios are highly questionable.
The location where the IV's were given (his home) is a giveaway.

Poor Pac on the other hand, was denied some minor anti-inflammatory and pain reliever drug FOR A TORN ROTATOR CUFF.
Dude got played. Big time.

 

:deal

 

That's another point.

Look at how long and gangly May's arms got compared to say in 2005.

His arms actually GOT LONGER!!

 

I knew what it was back in 2011 after PEDerson got caught

pretty sure Floyd got asked much later.

 

to be the tbe you need to beat tbe, therefore by proving the best ever was a cheat he proved he was better than the tbe, and therefore the best ever.

 

Pacquiao could make 135 with ease his entire career. The guy is basically a natural featherweight. He was rehydrating over 140 pounds at superfeather.

People don't realize how small of a man he was. It's amazing that he beatdown Margarito like he did. I couldn't believe a tiny guy like that could bust up a huge badass like Margarito.

 

Although no one can ultimately prove he's a drugs cheat, we are certainly entitled to our opinion.

Correct me if I'm mistaken, but the following are important points:

- Mayweather for the last few years has been taking a very long time in announcing his opponent. He certainly did so for Pacquiao. Usually this allows time for fighters to cycle off PED's.

- IV is used to mask PED usage in athletes.

- Mayweather had an injection of well over 50ml per 6 hours which is the limit.

- Mayweather broke a WADA rule by taking more but got the all-clear from USADA.

- Mayweather usually only weighs 150lbs at the 30 day weigh in. This is what he usually rehydrates to. However, todays welterweights usually rehydrate to 160lbs+.

- Mayweather is a veteran in the fight game, he has done this for 19 years, yet he all of a sudden feels dehydrated. He had virtually zero weight to lose, and was constantly able to drink water. Dark urine is a HEALTHY result of many vitamins when consumed, so that's not an excuse.

- Mayeather has the T/E ratio of a 127.5 year old man.

- USADA has worked with Mayweather for a long time, and they make some good money from him. Although I'm not saying USADA are corrupt, what I am saying is that higher powers tend to do under the table deals.

- USADA gave him the all-clear, he had failed one of the tests.

All of this, and probably more.
This all leads me to believe Mayweather is cheating.

 

Their license needs to be revoked effective immediately. WADA is doing that to RUSADA for corruption, that's exactly what USADA deserves as well. NSAC should be investigated by the feds too.

 

All I'll say on the subject is that Floyd seems quicker now than he was 10 years ago, and that is not natural no matter how you look at it

 

The whole IV thing is suspicious as hell but thinking about it, I wouldn't completely rule out the rehydration thing.

From what we know Mayweather trains like a maniac already, and is said to have trained his hardest for this fight.
Factually it was reported that Mayweather had a hard training session directly after the weighin, also the day of the fight way before the IV story broke.
He weighed in at 146.5/7 so if its true he trained hard after making weight, its plausible that the dehydration thing is legit.

At the end of the day who knows if it comes out positive he's a cheater, that kills his credibility if not then it is what it is.

As far as the rules thing I believe USADA didn't say anything about an IV infusion, because it is legal in Nevada filing the exemption was just proper paper work or so they say.
also he took drug test before and after taking the IV and passed both, which kind of kills the argument a bit.

 

It reminds me of this 43 year old who blew away a bunch of 20 year olds in the long run. You go wtf?!

 

It doesn't matter if he was dehydrated as he claims. It is on the list of banned substances for a reason.

Kills the argument? Lmao. The point of doing an IV flood is to flush the system and throw all the testable ratios off, ie. dilute his biological profile. Duh? For all the morons out there, you can then take a nice big steroid boost, flush it with the IV, then take a blood/urine test and pass with flying colors, except that they'd know you were cheating because your biological profiles is blow to smithereens. Luckily Floyd got a retroactive TUE. Am I right?


The significance of the TUE means he gets a pass for having ****ed up ratios that only a doper who has used a masking agent would have.

 

funnu thing is more than likely both Pacquiao and Floyd were on eery steroid they could find. Thr Ivs are no more suspocious than Pac declining OSDT in 2010

 

Right because the guy caught with 15 times the allowable limit who said Pac was a cheater is telling the truth? And you all believed him. The irony...

 

I think you didnt read what I said, I clearly said I believe Mayweather was doping just like pac was. It is naive to believe that any top 20 fighter or athlete period isnt doping