Did Mayweather conciously avoid high stamina fighters?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by scarecrow, Dec 16, 2015.


  1. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

    27,489
    437
    Sep 27, 2008
    Quintana in his day was a good fighter, southpaw with good power, even favored to beat Miguel Cotto. Anyways, Williams proved Quintana's win was a fluke by destroying Quintana in 1 round. After that, Williams was creating havoc from 147-160 where basically fighters in 3 divisions were taking him as a real threat. You don't ever really hear about something like that. Oh yea, he was a real legit threat to Floyd, a stylistic nightmare. Iron chinned and volume punching southpaw, Floyd didn't want none.
     
  2. scarecrow

    scarecrow Boxing Addict Full Member

    3,880
    125
    Dec 13, 2015
    I feel like some fans here are like elitist snobbish boxing fans.

    Not everybody is a practicer of the fine art of boxing. Some people like Margarito just get it done primarily through strength, workrate, toughness and determination.

    There is more than 1 way to box. And it's a shame that some people can only appreciate pure boxing.
     
  3. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

    396,231
    78,515
    Nov 30, 2006
    That's all well and fine and nobody is disputing that. Suggesting that Margarito is a doomsday scenario for the best of his generation based on those attributes is a bit of a reach, though.
     
  4. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

    31,154
    2,097
    Jul 24, 2004

    Who gives a ****. Margarito's hard head caused it!!!

    Do you think Mayweather's brittle hands would hold up to repeatedly bounce shots off Margarito's head to hold him off???
     
  5. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

    396,231
    78,515
    Nov 30, 2006
    :yep

    Calzaghe's held up on Hopkins' big old hard noggin, so yeah. :conf
     
  6. Enigmadanks

    Enigmadanks Boxing Addict Full Member

    6,744
    975
    Feb 5, 2009
    Margarito is a slow plodder and a cheat. He also has very slow hand speed and footwork, so all his punches would essentially be telegraphed.

    So it all comes down to would Margarito eat FLoyd's punches and continue to push through with reckless abandon. Last time I checked, FLoyd pretty much only fights men that are larger than him who almost always have a power advantage over him as well. It doesn't look like anyone is too keen to jump in on him after they feel his straight right hand or counter punches.

    I actually think Margarito would be a pretty easy fight for Mayweather considering he's as slow as molasses. I can't imagine anyway Margarito would win unless FLoyd decided to fight in a stationary manner or play possum on the ropes. He could easily just box circles around him for 12 rounds. Antonio is not as great as some people are making him out to be.
     
  7. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

    31,154
    2,097
    Jul 24, 2004
    Nope!
    Clottey has a history of bad stamina issues.
    Even against Miguel Cotto who lacks stamina, Clottey's energy and activity level dipped.
    Clottey stamina issues were known well before the Margarito fight.
     
  8. scarecrow

    scarecrow Boxing Addict Full Member

    3,880
    125
    Dec 13, 2015
    If Margarito walks through Cotto's punches he walks through Floyd's best shots.
     
  9. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

    31,154
    2,097
    Jul 24, 2004
    Hatton was a tough SOB and Mayweather deserves proper credit for beating Hatton and at Hatton's game.

    I don't think Mayweather avoided fighters with just high stamina.
    He avoided welters who were naturally bigger than he in all of height, reach, and weight. Margarito was all of that plus he could take massive ammounts of punishment and keep punching nonstop from beginning to end.
    I can understand why a low output fighter like Mayweather with brittle hands to boot would stay clear of the Tornado.
     
  10. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

    31,154
    2,097
    Jul 24, 2004
    Margarito throws with more volume and is tireless.
    Margarito had what DLH lacked throughout his career, stamina.
    The ability to get hit and keep on chugging throwing punches like it doesn't matter.

    If DLH had half the stamina Margarito had, he'd have beaten Mayweather when they fought.
    Stamina, DLH just lacked there.
     
  11. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

    31,154
    2,097
    Jul 24, 2004
    You cant say that unless you also say that p4p Froch is a better fighter than Miguel Cotto.
     
  12. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

    23,723
    4,042
    Oct 13, 2010
    Margarito would have destroyed Cowardflower

    "its n n n n not about the best. p p p p lease dont hurt me mr margarito"
     
  13. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

    396,231
    78,515
    Nov 30, 2006
    Mayweather could spent three minutes of all twelve rounds on the ropes and shut Margarito out.
     
  14. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

    396,231
    78,515
    Nov 30, 2006
    He isn't as skilled but has the p4p better chin.
     
  15. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

    31,154
    2,097
    Jul 24, 2004
    You're comparing apples and oranges.
    Hopkins was way past his prime and even if he were in his prime, Hopkins doesn't offer Calzaghe the volume and workrate where you have to put mus**** on your shot to hold him off.

    I would say that p4p, Calzaghe with his skillset and pitter patter volume punching would more of a clear avenue to victory against Margarito, then Mayweather he relies on his low volume play defense type of fight game.
    In fact, p4p I'm confident Calzaghe clearly decisions Margarito, where I don't have that same confidence that Mayweather gets it done because of his inactivity.

    Go figure, p4p I think Mayweather is superior to Calzaghe, but because of styles, imo Calzaghe beats Margarito easier than would Mayweather.
    Again, styles make fights! :deal