Who faced more punchers Lewis or Ali?

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  1. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    Just when I thought I'd seen it all, I've seen people argue Lewis fought more punchers than Ali. :lol::lol:

    Ali fought three hardest punchers of all time in Liston (2x), Shavers, and Foreman.

    He also fought:
    Joe Frazier 3X
    Ron Lyle,
    Jerry Quarry 2X
    Zora Folley
    Cleveland Williams
    Bob Foster
    Floyd Patterson 2X
    Mac Foster
    Alfredo Evangelista
    George Chuvalo 2X
    Oscar Bonavena
    Ken Norton 3X
    Joe Bugner 2X
    Chuck Wepner
    Henry Cooper 2X
    Sonny Banks, etc. All of these guys could bang.
     
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  2. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Lennox Lewis

    1. Vitali Klitscko
    2. David Tua
    3. Hasim Rahman
    4. Michael Grant
    5. Shannon Briggs
    6. Andrew Golata
    7. Razor Ruddock
    8. Gary Mason
    9. Mike Tyson
    10. Evander Holyfield
    11. Oliver McCall
    12. Tommy Morrison
    13. Frank Bruno
    14. Mike Weaver
    15. Ray Mercer
    16. Lionel Butler
    17. Phil Jackson
    18. Tony Tucker
    19. Zeljko Mavrovic
    20. Michael Simuwelu.

    Muhammad Ali:

    1. Earnie Shavers
    2. George Foreman
    3. Joe Frazier
    4. Sonny Liston
    5. Floyd Patterson
    6. Ken Norton
    7. Mac Foster
    8. Ron Lyle
    9. Henry Cooper
    10. Archie Moore
    11. Trevor Berbick
    12. Oscar Bonavena
    13. Jerry Quarry
    14. Bob Foster
    15. Cleveland Williams

    ANSWER: Lennox Lewis..
     
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  3. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    If the thread question is about who fought "more" than the above statement is irrelevant and also opinion based.
     
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  4. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Comparing guys like a debilitated Cleveland Williams, Zora Folley, overblown cruiser Jerry Quarry, reluctant Joe Bugner and light heavy Bob Foster to the monsters that Lewis faced is the height of intellectual dishonesty... at least for today... so far.
     
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  5. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    You're not even listing all the punchers Ali fought while listing unknown boxers who weren't known for their punching power (or anything else for that matter)
     
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  6. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    I'll give you that, it was irrelevant saying it. I only said it because some people tried arguing Lewis and Tyson fought harder than Ali previously. But you're right, it's completely irrelevant to the thread.

    Also Liston, Foreman, and Shavers are widely recognized as being the hardest punchers of all time.
     
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  7. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    Ali faced more powerful punchers than Lewis. Even Magoo said it. Anyways that's irrelevant because it's quantity not quality.
     
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  8. Pugilist_Spec

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    Lewis.

    Ali has 3 distinguished punchers on his resume - Liston, Shavers and Foreman. He faced some other hard-hitting heavyweights like Lyle and Patterson, but they were a notch below in terms of power.

    Lewis faced 5-10 opponents that I'd classify with the trio mentioned above, along with a plethora of other power-punchers.
     
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  9. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I said he fought a select "few" who were better in "quality" for some reason or another, i.e, Legacy, Skill, or otherwise. As for weather or not they were more "powerful", that's subject to debate as raw power is virtually impossible to measure.
     
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  10. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Lewis.



    Norton
    Chuvalo
    Evangelista
    Bugner
    Wepner
    Bob Foster at heavyweight
    Folley
    Quarry
    Bonavena
    Banks

    Do not belong on a list of top echelon punchers.
    Evangelista
    Bugner
    Folley
    Chuvalo
    Don't belong on any list of serious punchers.
     
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  11. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    It must be some new and amazing discovery that Alfredo Evangelista, Joe Bugner, Chuck Wepner and Zora Folley were punchers.
     
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  12. Mendoza

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    Lewis faced more.
     
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  13. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Thank you.
     
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  14. RockysSplitNose

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    Evander holyfield was absolutely not a puncher
     
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  15. N_ N___

    N_ N___ Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You'd think so, but then you realize he stopped Tyson, Douglas, and Moorer.
     
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