The real reason Ali will always be the greatest HW

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  1. jdw2000

    jdw2000 Active Member Full Member

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    Put together your Top ATG heavyweights. Ali will have beaten 3 of them.

    Who else has wins against the likes of Foreman, Frazier and Liston?

    That cannot be said for any other ATG HW, and never will be.


    He will always be, for that reason, the Greatest.



    People who tout Wlad as an ATG - most of whom haven't started shaving yet - needn't bother posting in this thread.
     
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  2. The Smoking Man

    The Smoking Man Boxing Addict banned

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    The furious one is the greatest of all time. He beats midget men like Ali handy
     
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  3. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    In his prime he'd be tough for anyone, but I doubt he beats everyone, at least not on the first try. And vice versa.

    Ali is highly regarded for the impact he had in and out of the ring.
     
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  4. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I agree. Ali's wins over three greats from three different eras are head and shoulders above anything any heavyweight has ever done.
     
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  5. jdw2000

    jdw2000 Active Member Full Member

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    Exactly.
     
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  6. FrankinDallas

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    He also went anywhere to fight....all over the world.
     
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  7. FreeRadricDavis

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    Ali's the goat becauss of one fight in my eyes :

    Clay vs. The United States

    The fact that he came out after that and still won makes him double goat.
     
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  8. Danebrogen

    Danebrogen Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lewis could have contested him had he actually fought Bowe and fought Tyson and Holyfield in their prime.

    But yes, Ali is the GOAT HW imo. Never been a fan of Ali though.
     
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  9. Clinton

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    I love Ali. He's my 3rd favorite fighter ever. I have him at atg heavyweight.
     
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  10. jdw2000

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    Bowe refused to fight Lewis in 93. In 95 Lewis lost to McCall (Lewis' own fault).

    Holyfield could have fought Lewis in 93, but Holy lost to Bowe. Therefter few would call Holy "peak", so that chance was lost.

    Tyson was peak in the 80s, and Lewis wasn't ready to fight him until 92/93, by which time Tyson was in prison.


    Overall, we can only blame Lewis for one of those fights not happening - Bowe in 95. And the happiest man in the world that this fight didn't happen is Rid**** Bowe.
     
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  11. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    At this point who gives a **** though? Look at who Ali beat. The nuts that it took to face those guys and fight them like that is unreal.
     
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  12. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    I just said that because OP implied he beats everyone, he could though.
     
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  13. Toker

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    Marciano beat Walcott, Charles, and Louis. And Johnson beat Burns, Jeffries, Jeanette, and Langford. But I get your point.
     
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  14. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    I don't think he implied that Ali would beat everybody. Just mentioned that he did in fact beat those great fighters.
     
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  15. Zodius

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    Many boxers would beat ali

    Both k bros would beat ali and Tyson fury beats both k bros

    Prime Mike Tyson beats ali

    Ali is vastly overrated and received a lot of help during his career
     
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