Could Lewis have survived the onslaught that was Manilla?

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  1. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    I love Lewis, but if he had been in the last three rounds of the thrilla, it would've been enough to stop him ten times over. It would've made Tyson-Spinks fight look Merciful.
     
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  2. Titan1

    Titan1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't think Lennox could hold up to that onslaught. Not built for it.
     
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  3. Pugilist_Spec

    Pugilist_Spec Hands Of Stone Full Member

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    The fight would not have went past 3.

    Joe was shot.
     
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  4. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    But he also had enough power and other attributes to ensure he wouldn't have been in that position in the first place, so it's kind of a moot question.
     
    Vanboxingfan, Dec 19, 2015
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  5. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Likely right.
     
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  6. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Yes and I think he wins.. Ali was declining noticeably by 1975.. Frazier was just as diminished. Both men should be credited with their punch numbers and the punishment each took. But i really don't think Lennox would have to go through all that to prevail especially if he were prime.
     
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  7. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone banned Full Member

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    lewis beats em both.
     
    lepinthehood, Dec 19, 2015
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  8. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    You guys don't understand the question. Could his chin endure that kind of punishment?
     
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  9. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    No.

    I am resigned to the idea that Lewis was one of the less durable great champions, but he compensated in other ways.
     
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  10. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Assuming Lewis is placed into the situation Ali was in, then no I don't see him taking that level of punishment.

    I don't think it would happen because he'd bomb out Frazier in two, but if it got to that point I don't see Lewis surviving.
     
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  11. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    Ali just dished out way to punishment. Ali himself said nobody except Joe could've taken those punches.
     
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  12. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    As good as Lewis was, his chin wasn't on that level. Not on the level of Frazier and Ali.
     
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  13. YesMySon

    YesMySon Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If Lewis was facing Ali, hes done on his feet by round 5.

    Against Frazier, koed by a left hook maybe earlier
     
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  14. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    A certain poster actually argued Lewis had a better then Frazier and Dempsey. :-(
     
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  15. Vince Voltage

    Vince Voltage Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lewis would've handled both of them. Ali took a lot of shots in the fight, against a shorty, pudgy, shopworn guy. Lewis would have pummeled him, getting to him late.

    Frazier goes even earlier.
     
    Vince Voltage, Dec 19, 2015
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