Why is Michael Moorer not in the hall of fame?

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  1. Pugilist_Spec

    Pugilist_Spec Hands Of Stone Full Member

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    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  3. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    His resume is OK, but nothing 'Hall of Fame' special. He is not that popular, so his name will not sell that many tickets for the weekend. So as salsanchezfan suggests; why would he?
     
  4. Pugilist_Spec

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    Light-heavyweight champion that moved up to heavyweight and won a title? Beating Holyfield? That isn't HOF worthy?
     
  5. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    In due course possibly, but unlikely, his 175lbs title claim is very weak in a Hall of Fame context. Recently retired fighters need to have the name to sell the tickets to fund the weekend, I doubt Moorer can do that.
     
  6. salsanchezfan

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    He wasn't a real light heavy champ. The WBO or whatever it was wasn't recognized as being anything, and he never fopught anyone at 175 anyway. Barely beating a dilapidated Holyfield and then getting smoked in a rematch, not to mention a 45-year old Foreman?

    He just didn't do anything special. He doesn't belong anywhere near the Hall.
     
  7. Rumple

    Rumple Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think he was the first southpaw heavyweight champion ever just to play devil's advocate a little but no he doesn't belong in the HOF.
     
  8. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't think he belongs

    At LHW, he only won the fringe WBO title and his best wins were over fringe contender Frankie Swindell and a faded Leslie Stewart.

    AT HW, the first Holyfield fight was a very good win, but something seemed off with Holyfield's stamina, and Evander rather easily beat him in a rematch later. The loss to an old Foreman, by 10 count no less, was a bad loss. In regaining a portion of the heavyweight title (IBF) and defending it a few times, he faced fairly mediocre opposition in Schultz and Botha.
     
  9. Oneirokritis

    Oneirokritis The Scourge of Stupid Idiots. Full Member

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    What is it about Moorer's resume that even suggests he is hall of fame-worthy?

    It's supposed to be the "Hall of Fame", not the "Hall of Very Good".
     
  10. Anubis

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    Putting weight on like Moorer did is starting to taint everybody of that era with the automatic suspicion they were using muscle building PEDs. In four months, he bulked up nearly 40 pounds from his final LHW bout to his first HW outing, and ultimately was competing at over 250, a weight gain of about 80 pounds during the course of his career that started when he was 21, so already physically mature for the most part. (For comparison, Bob Hazelton went from 179 to 222, while Marciano's penultimate challenger from England needed a life shortening glandular condition to gain 60 pounds over the course of his career.)

    Yeah, Moorer might get into the IBHOF if he could somehow sell sufficient tickets for Induction Weekend, but the flagrant "In your face!" use of growth and performance enhancing drugs is becoming an absurdity discrediting most all sports. (Testing is obviously a useless joke. Marion Jones never flunked such a test.)

    Maybe if he'd stayed at 175 to consolidate those titles, or rose no further up than CW to unify those championships, then racked up a few defenses, he might merit serious consideration, but generational association is slapping everybody with an asterisk now, and I haven't been able to take competitive sports seriously for a very long time. Oh, it can be fun to watch and follow in a WWE sort of way, but with the same measure of seriousness.
     
  11. expljose

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    I dunno why he would be
     
  12. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Sadly, the standards are not concrete. Ray Mancini and Brian Mitchell are in. I agree Moorer doesn't cut it, but neither did those two.
     
  13. salsanchezfan

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    They did more than he did.
     
  14. sweetsci

    sweetsci Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yeah, Ray Mancini was pretty famous. Which is ultimately what gets you into the Hall of Fame. Butterbean'll be in before Moorer.
     
  15. salsanchezfan

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    He also did more in the ring.