Larry Holmes vs Mike Tyson

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  1. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    His jab was clearly troubling Tyson. Even a blind man could see that.

    I actually have. If you didn't spend so much time trolling you would've seen it.

    Let me explain it to you, since you are obviously not the sharpest knife in the drawer. Holmes was still very good against Mercer and Tyson. But was he anywhere near prime Holmes? Hell no. Even the shell of Holmes would take a good fighter to beat.
    He was shot. He wasn't completely done but he was certainly not at his peak like you were implying. There's simply no way in hell he was at his prime against Mercer. That's the biggest bull**** I've ever heard from you. You're just saying it to somehow justify the fact that Tyson didn't beat anywhere near a prime Holmes. It's outright lying
     
  2. Berlenbach

    Berlenbach Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What trouble? Tyson delivered a brutal beating and KO'd him.

    You said something about them having a longer reach...

    So was he shot, or still very good? You seem confused.
     
  3. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I've gone back and forth on the matter for the past 27 years since their actual fight. On one hand I look at Tyson being exposed by douglas and an aged Holyfield but at the same time I recall Holmes getting nearly decapitated by shavers, dropped by snipes, rocked by weaver and going life and death with an older ken norton.. Tyson was never invincible but neither was Holmes by any means.. A 1988 Tyson vs a 1980 Larry Holmes would have been a spectacular fight to be certain.. But after all these years I still can't settle on a winner..
     
  4. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    Because you still haven't answered my question.
     
  5. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Because your question does not relate to this thread.
     
  6. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    This is true but also misleading.

    Holmes had been off a long time before the Tyson fight and he was persuaded to comeback by Don King to face Tyson. He was beyond rusty and his timing was certainly off. Later he came back and had success by fighting on a regular basis. That`s along with the fact that Mercer was no Tyson.
    With that said Tyson did what he was supposed to do when he faced Holmes he won in a spectacular fashion.
     
  7. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    I've given my explanation for this also.
    But I still said something. Which you tried blatantly lying about.
    This isn't complex at all...
     
  8. Knights107

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    Prime larry holmes will be the best fighter that tyson fights in his prime.
    Holmes a lot better than tucker, boncrusher smith, m spink, berbick, & even ruddock.
    when tyson face worthy enough fighter like holyfield. he lost.

    & holmes will face the best opponent in his prime in tyson.
    but holmes survived from shavers. who hit harder than tyson in my opinion.
     
  9. Berlenbach

    Berlenbach Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This fight is actually a good demonstration of how Tyson handled someone with a good jab. Count how many he times he slips Pinky's jab and gets inside.

    Oh, that was your answer? Holmes having a long reach is an insurmountable obstacle for Tyson? Okay.

    A fighter can't be both shot and still very good. They're mutually exclusive.
     
  10. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    It's rather clear that Thomas's jab troubled Tyson. It's even clearer that Tyson, was troubled by jabs. Only a biased fan, could say otherwise. I also see you ignored what I said about Lewis and Holyfield.

    You know that was my answer because you said it yourself in your last post. He was troubled by Douglas's reach and jab. Douglas's jab was no where near on par with Holmes'.

    Not true
     
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  11. Oneirokritis

    Oneirokritis The Scourge of Stupid Idiots. Full Member

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    I go Holmes to beat Tyson by TKO in 10 -- although I could see Larry having to climb off the canvas at some point.
     
  12. Berlenbach

    Berlenbach Boxing Addict Full Member

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    In what way did he have trouble with Thomas' jab? Did he have trouble getting past it? Could he not get inside and do damage? Did it disrupt his timing?

    I pointed out a number of rangy fighters with good jabs that Tyson handled, but it seems your sole point of reference with Tyson is the Douglas fight. I also said Holmes had issues with right hands (Tyson actually mentioned this after their fight) and your only counter to that was Shavers and Snipes had longer arms than Tyson. Okay. :roll:
     
  13. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    I've actually gave my reasoning but you were to busy trolling.

    That wasn't the only thing I said. I've said so many things that you've ignored. I've even called you out on it IN MY LAST POST. Yet you continue to ignore it. I know you saw it because you quoted it. You are a liar and a troll.
     
  14. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    Yes it does. You're just to stupid to comprehend it. :lol::lol:
     
  15. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    I wonder where YesI'mPathetic went after I replied to him. :think