Finally did research on Roy Jones. He actually did avoid most of the top MW-SMW.

Merry Christmas!

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this

clearly the thread maker is noob if he thinks hopkins was ranked between 8 and 11 as the holder of the IBF crown.
then points out that the other great win over Toney shouldnt count because "Toney was drained".
the clown is just a hater

 

Roy did miss some big names in his career... I am a huge fan and thought he ducked Nunn for risk vs reward reasons. Other than DM which was a black eye to boxing it didn't happen, but at the same time, in a list of the top fighters of the generation around the weight, the possible best 2 not named Roy Jones were beaten by him... It has to count for something.

 

Embarrassing?

Let's see:

From 95-02, he fought the following fighters:

Antoine Byrd, Vinny Pazienza, Tony Thornton, Merqui Sosa, Eric Lucas, Bryant Brannon, Mike McCallum, Montell Griffin, Virgil Hill, Lou Del Valle, Otis Grant, Ricky Frazier, Reggie Johnson, David Telesco, Richard Hall, Eric Harding, Derrick Harmon, Julio Gonzalez, Glen Kelly and Clinton Woods.

That's 20 fighters.

Let's break them down:

There was nothing embarrassing at all about fighting Lucas, McCallum, Griffin, Hill, Del Valle, Johnson, Hall, Harding and Woods.

They were all solid fighters, and they were all top ten ranked opposition. Go and look at who they'd fought before Roy, and then look at who they fought afterwards. Also, most of those 9 fights were either title fights or mandatories.

Only an uneducated idiot could class those fights as embarrassing.

That leaves 11 guys:

Byrd, Pazienza, Thornton, Brannon, Sosa, Grant, Frazier, Telesco, Kelly, Gonzalez and Harmon.

To my knowledge, the following fighters were mandatories:

Byrd, Thornton, Brannon, Frazier and Kelly.

Now even you can't criticise a fighters mandatory opposition. They were all the number 1 contenders who were put forward to face Roy. And Roy had to fight them to retain his belts. Without being disrespectful, yes, they weren't what you'd call great fighters, although Thornton was a good fighter in his prime.

That leaves you with just 6 guys:

Pazienza, Sosa, Grant, Telesco, Gonzalez and Harmon.

So he had 6 keep busy fights in a period of 7 years. That's it. And within that 7 year period, you have repeatedly been shown actual evidence where Roy tried to fight: Frankie Liles, Evander Holyfield, Dariusz Michalczewski and Bernard Hopkins.

To summarize:

You've just been stuffed more than a Christmas turkey.


Come back to me if you want an actual debate.

Merry Christmas.


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Let's go.

 

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Jim Thomas (Evander's attorney) says that Evander respectfully turned down the idea of it in 1998, because at the time, he felt as though he was in a no-win situation.

You have to respect that everyone's circumstances are different. So I wouldn't call it a shameless duck. I respected Evander's honesty. But it proves to the haters that Roy wasn't just content to ride out his HBO contract fighting lower level guys.

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Rico's busy at the moment.

He's endlessly watching Enzo Mac's knockout.

 

Forget the ads.

When push came to shove, he had zero interest in discussing any terms to fight Roy in the U.S.

Look at his resume after he'd lost his belts:

http://boxrec.com/boxer/4141

You don't need to be Columbo to figure out what his intentions were.

 

Happy Christmas mate.

I agree about him ducking Nunn. But not in the sense that he was afraid of fighting him.

In my opinion, it would be completely illogical for a guy who was scared of fighting a faded Nunn, to pursue fights Frankie Liles and Evander Holyfield.

 

1. Most of those guys didnt want to fight roy so it goes both ways.
2. he beat prime hopkins and prime toney easily. thats good enough for me. stop trying to knock someones greatness because you hate the fact youve never been great at anything in your insignificant life.:hi:

 

Absolutely.. I think the Nunn fight was just bad timing.. He still presented Roy with some possible trouble due to styles. At the time Roy could make a lot more money pursuing other fights, and would not have got much credit for beating Nunn...i wish he would have fought him but understand where Roy was coming from.

 

Happy Christmas to you too Loudon!