Oh boy, Floyd says ward would beat GGG easily

We aren't talking about previous eras and HOF's are judged AFTER their careers are over. Right now you're just comparing eras of who were prime atg's in their prime AFTER the fact. Not many compare to the FAB 4. Just stfu lol... I don't know how good GG will be. I'm not here trashing him, just is comp. the jury is still out.

 

Yeah. I'd say this infantile **** too if I were in your precarious position lol...

 

Who are the atg's in their prime today? Name 2 or more in each division lol.

 

Name them lol...^^^^^^^

 

When did I say Ward was an 'unbeatable God'? Stop putting words in my mouth. Otherwise, a well-reasoned post with many valid points.

 

GGG is the guy who said everyone from 154-68 was ducking him so him making weight excuses for any reason is some bull****, I agree that catch weight title fights aren't what's up but Canelo won the title at 155 and was willing to defend it at the same weight he won it.

The more onus should be put on the so called great so said anybody, only to back down when called out.

Let's compare to Mayweather wasn't his fight vs Maidana bashed wasn't Maidana a reigning WW Champ isn't Maidana a better and more proven champ or fighter that anyone on GGGs resume, now ask yourself how much credit do ppl give there.

Golovkin is all talk entertaining but just talk, every time he's been in position to do something he's either stepped aside or backed down.

You wanna praise someone praise Kovalev who doesn't make excuses and goes out of his way to do whatever is needed to make the fight and create a legacy.

 

Name the ATG's fighting today. Name 1 in each division and in the division either higher or below their weight who can actually meet lol...!!!

 

Yeah, I thought so lol. Foh

 

If that's the case that makes it even more embarrassing that it's so many titles out and GGG has beaten a grand total of one, your re****ed trying to compare the two.

If what Mayweather did was so easy why hasn't Golovkin beaten the legitimate #1 fighter ever why didn't he move up and fight the true division champ in his first fight like Mayweather did with Castillo?prime or not I can name a great fighter Mayweather fought in 4 out of 5 divisions. Can you name even one good fighter on GGGs?

Andre fu(king Berto a former 2 time WW Champ has a better resume and is more accomplished than anyone on GGs resume, and he's Mayweather 's worse win in 10 yrs think about that.

 

Pacquiao is a HOF and his career isn't over.
Marquez is a HOF and he hasn't announced his retirement.
Mayweather was a sure thing for HOF 10 years ago IMO but he wasn't retired.

Duran for example beat SRL at or near SRL's prime.
Well if you didn't have reading comprehension issues, you would've realised that I also believe the jury is still out on GGG.

 

If Mayweather avoided prime HOF Fightera please name them, I mean he fought in 5 division. What potential HOF caliber fighters did he miss?

 

I'm not trying to compare the two, you absolute dumbass. I even stated that clearly. Damn, you're thick as **** lol.

The problem with GGG's career is that no one wants to fight him, and his era sucks (just like Mayweather's era is worse than Sugar Ray Leonard's for example). Of the current belt holders, Canelo wants him to come down to 156lbs - an absolutely ridiculous request. Canelo needs to stop being a bully and start fighting guys his size.
Saunders admitted a couple of months ago in a video interview he's too scared of facing Golovkin but would fight him when Golovkin is over the hill - he was being dead serious about this.
Quillin has fortunately lost to Jacobs. I hope Jacobs will fight Golovkin, but I bet he's still scarred by his KTFO loss to Pirog.

Who is there for him to fight at middleweight?

The Berto that Mayweather fought < David Lemieux or Murray (Murray clearly beat Martinez in my cards).

 

That was never my argument. Other than a prime Pacquiao, nobody. Mayweather's in a mediocre era. Mayweather IMO was HOF worthy 10 years ago. He's an ATG and prime-for-prime, better than Manny Pacquiao on a H2H level (although this isn't the same as saying he'd beat Manny in a prime-for-prime matchup).

 

You're spot on, there is no-one for him to fight at middleweight, which is why I wish he'd move up to 168 where his power might not always be the decisive factor and we could see him in bouts where opponents might be able to take his shots. Only then will we truly find out exactly how good he really is.

 

He kinda backtracked from that word, It's been corrected that "unify the division, move up or down for only big money fights." Maybe It's not right, but It is what it is. About Canelo and 155 lb bulls****, I still think If GGG was doing the same with a 168 lb title, you'd be bashing at him in every possible way. Fighters shouldn't get to say "I won the MW title title @LMW. So if anyone wants to fight for it, they have to come down to LMW."

You can only make that case for talking about a catchweight to fight Ward, but I can't blame anyone for not making any future plans vs Ward. And if he has to move down to super welterweight to fight for the MW strap, then what's the point in working your way to the mando spot? 155 is really, really ridicuolus.

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I never said anything remotely close to suggest GGG's resume was comparable to Floyd's, which is obviously not. Not comparable to Pacquaio's, B-Hop's or Wlad's. But I disagree about Maidana. I don't think he was a more proven champion than say, Geale. The only reason his name was more well known Murray, Geale, Lemieux, Macklin is because he was on the same division with May/Pac.

Again, for the only time you can say that is the Ward situation. But after witnessing the last four years, you can't rely on fighting Ward a year after. Is not having Sergio Martinez on his resume GGG's fault? No, It's not. Same with Sturm, Lee, Pirog, Barker, Froch, Chavez Jr or Sylvester. But accuse him with ducking Ward, by all means. I wouldn't agree but I'd understand.

What has Kovalev done that GGG refused to do? Yes, he has better wins in B-Hop and Pascal but that partially has to do with luck rather than going out of his way.

Again, I'm not saying GGG is a proven ATG killer or anything and he does have a long way to go but, one of the biggest paper champs in the history? Really?