Let's put an end to "21st century" heavyweight size obsession.

Nobody in Primo Carnera's own region Friuli actually believes that he would've stood a chance against modern top heavyweights, let alone anywhere else.

Yet we have false boxing devotees claiming anything (no matter how illogical it seemed) as long as it suits their agendas.

 

Luis Ortiz is the best heavyweight... for stopping a bum?

This is more embarrassing than the time Americans tought Curtis Stevens was going to KO GGG all because he sparked some wino in a round.

 

Hopkins was beat by a bum in his debut.

Pacquiao KO'd by some no name scrub early on.

Fury should have lost to Big John.


Getting wobbled ONCE by a guy packing a fair bit of power doesn't automatically make AJ a bum. You utter fool. And I say that as someone who think AJ will get beat once he steps up.

 

how long has the 21st century been?

how long was HW history that preceded it?

ice skating uphill again, mate.

 

you now this for a fact?

ironic that you write this straight after -

 

noone claimed we should go back to anything!
you do talk shyte mate. feel free to reply with an actual opint when you can find one.

 

:good

 

Moderators, please close the thread.

 

I keep a close eye on up and comers, but sorry the best of them are super heavyweights, well above 230 pounds and close to 6'4" tall or higher.

Ortiz, Parker, Joshua, Kuzman to name a few.

PS: Trey Lippe does fight like his dad. The left hook is for real, and he's a plus athlete who has shown some defense. He'll need work to defend the jab vs a longer or taller fighter, but the potential is there. Roach has him now? Wow. Look for Trey to step up the competition in 2017 as needs to go 10 rounds, and have a plan B and C if needed.

 

Moronic thread.

#1. Carnera example only illustrates size's importance and its changing nature. Carnera wasn't his era's Klitschko, he was his era's Valuev. Unlike K's, he had very little athleticism. Arguably Valuev was more athletic than Carnera, but lets call it even for the sake of argument. Difference being, Valuev was 6 inches taller and 60 pounds heavier. They achieved similar status in their era (both were fringe top 5 hw's of their era). It shows how much bigger HW's have gotten, and how important size is.

#2. SHW should be defined at 6'4 and above. Ali was the tallest dominant champ ever when he came around. No dominant champ was a full 6'4 or higher until the 90's (Foreman was sometimes billed 6'4, usually 6'3, so he was likely under 6'4, and is sometimes considered a SHW anyway). Most of the fighters the original poster mentions are 6'4.

#3. The ones the original poster mentions who are under 6'4 just aren't that good. They've beat no one and there is little reason to believe they will ever be top 10 HWs

 

Yep.

Like in the most of Europe, Italian sports media isn't split to the agenda driven sides because you are actually required be a legitimate journalist with proper credentials in order to do the job. Nobody accepts random people with cameras giving out their biased opinions.

The US boxing media often seems like a racial struggle between the sides rather than legitimate sports journalism.

 

so yes you speak Italian and have access to the local historic documents at hand?

excellent work.

 

Of course, and local historic documents have nothing to do with people giving Primo Carnera a chance against top modern super-heavies.

Everyone still knows Primo Carnera (there is even an indoor arena in Udine, Friuli named after Carnera) but nobody says that he would be competitive today.

Like I said, sport is covered by some of the most renowned and prestigious sports newspapers in Europe, not some random biased people fighting racial wars over sports media.

 

in spite of the fact that the three guys listed stopped a huge majority of their opponents?

 

lots of fighters stop the huge majority of their opponents, you are offering extraneous variables.