What would it take for a boxer to beat an MMA fighter

Do I need to post Sylvia/Mercer fight to make my point..?

 

Sylvia tried to box Mercer. LOL. That road had a dead end on it, with a little blinking light over Sylvia's prone form.

Art Jimmerson v Gracie and Toney v Couture are more representative of what occurs when a striker without ground skills comes up against a submission artist.

 

toney couture lol

gracie v jimmerson in its infancy


what your looking for is holm v the best athlete \ fighting machine in the world p4p no1

alls well that ends well the boxer had time to cross train and was able to implement her boxing which fu cked the p4p best up maybe for ever

 

Nope. Far from it, too.

You seem to pick and choose - Doesn't work that way.

IMO, you put Chad Mendes in with Manny Pac, Chad would own him.

You put Lebedev in with Bones, Bones would probably kill him.

HW is interesting, but I'd favour someone like Stipe to absolutely HUMILIATE Fury.

Golovkin/GSP? GSP all day.

Styles make fights. And MMA'ers, on the whole, are MUCH more aggressive than Boxers and much more well rounded. That's why they have success in K-1 even when it was guys like QJ who weren't proficient at kicking.

Mayweather would get CLOWNED by most 145'ers. It's a styles thing.

 

Even old, fat, shot to pieces Frans Botha managed to rack up some wins over "top" opponenst in K1, so there is clear gulf in class bewteen that that and boxing.

 

Against who? I remember Aerts hurting his own leg, Bojansky gave him ONE kick and Frans stormed off crying with a broken ear-drum. So much for being the toughest guys out there, huh?

Boxers are the worst strikers out of the striking arts. Too one dimensional.

I LOVE Boxing, but if Holly would have lost it'd have been "She was never a Boxer of note anyway", Mercer apparently "threw" his fight with Kimbo yet had he won it'd be a "win for us" parade, Mercer would have lost to Tim it'd be he was never that good...

Face it: Boxing is not the be all and end all of fighting. It's ONE aspect of it. A great aspect, too, but the chances of KO'ing someone FIRST TIME and not being taken down or hit with something that isn't a fist against trained fighters with multiple-disciplines behind them are winning lotto-number esque.

It's like "Tyson was the baddest man on the planet". No he was not.

Multiple KB'ers and Grapplers of that era would have eaten him alive.

 

Rolling round on the floor is not fighting its more an art of defence for thoughs who cannot fight

 

Wrong. You think fighting is only punching and kicking? Laughable.

If we fight and I choke you out, I've won the fight.

Fights can end by KO or Submission. End of.

 

Boxing isn't the be all and end all, but the point is that boxing is number one combat sport by some distance in term of money and number of participents. Hence boxing has a much higher overall level of talented athletes. Much, much higher in fact.

It's like comapring mens netball leagues in the UK to the NBA.

 

You make no sense.

If it's bigger, by your logic, it should a weaker talent pool than any combat sport due to the size of it!

 

I think an athletic and prime boxer with good movement has a shot at an early KO even without training. Not saying it's a given, but not farfetched.

 

I'd say that applies to HW.

You look at any class below and it's tactical on Boxing's behalf and more athletic on MMA's part.

Would I favour Mark Hunt to beat Wlad under MMA? Probably not due to him being not well rounded.

Would I favour someone like Lebedev over Bones? Hell no.

 

great post by powerpuncher on boxer vs mma guy

 

i think if a good knockout puncher boxer learns year or two some wrestling and especially takedown defense and defense from kicks, he could do very well.

junior dos santos is/was a very good mma fighter, yet his game plan is basically stand up - boxing with some kicks. and yes, he probably has solid BASICS about wrestling and ground game. that's why he got his ass kicked by a much superior wrestler in cain, but he did dominate the other fighters.

so basically, take a prime rid**** bowe, teach him basic wrestling, defense from takedowns and kicks, obviously let him train with wrestlers to learn all that, and with few tune up fights he would kick some ass!

 

Jesus...

1) People seem to skip over the fact that Couture was OVER FIFTY YEARS OLD.

2) JDS soon got destroyed when he couldn't defend the takedown. Cain, after being stopped by Junior, beat the dog-mess out of the guy. Who did he dominate? I mean he's just been stopped ON THE FEET by Overreem. He keeps losing BECAUSE he focuses on the stand-up!

3) Bowe, with his desire for a fight and his amazing inside game, would get destroyed.

People just see someone in MMA having success because of their striking and think "a boxer could do that!" - No, Just No. It's all about ranges and dynamics. MMA has it's own style of striking.