What would it take for a boxer to beat an MMA fighter

What?

A more popular sport, with greater financial rewards and a higher number of participants will have more talented athletes. As is the case with boxing compared to MMA, this is a fact, it's not even debatable.

Just take Conor Mcgregor, the new face of MMA, their biggest star, a man who has aspirations of being like Floyd Mayweather in terms of wealth and supers****om. Well in his biggest fight, against the number one in his division and a MMA all time great, he got a purse of 500k, whereas a shop worn, past prime Miguel Cotto, fighting above his best weight, just got a purse 30 times that amount for fight Canelo.

In terms of financial pull and the level of talent, MMA and the UFC are still in the little leagues compared to boxing. If someone like Mcgregor is so talented and so motivated by money, then why not go into boxing and make the big bucks? He said he wants to be the first UFC fighter to make 100m, well guess what? That isn't happening.

 

Conor just earned over $8 mill, but you seem in denial to the fact that he never.

You really do have sour g****s towards MMA. Are you a failed MMA'er or something?

 

His purse was 500k, what else he made on top of that from sponsorship and so on, I don't know. Cotto got a 15m purse for the Canelo fight and would have made more on top of that, but again, I have no idea how much. But even if Conor did make 8m in total, Cotto's purse alone was still almost twice as much.

This has nothing to do with sour g****s, it's just stating the fact that boxing has a much higher overall level of talent, basically better athletes and more of them. Which is something that should be taken into consideration when discussing (hypothetically) how top level, prime boxers would do when transitioning over to MMA.

But of course top level, prime boxers don't go into MMA because the money isn't good enough.

 

1) Why are banging on about money? Cotto nor Conor pay your bills, so what's the big deal?

2) If the talent pool is higher, why is the best fighter on earth NOT a Boxer?

Better athletes? Boxers are some of THE worst all-around athletes on the planet, mate.

Strong? Nope.
Fast? Not really?
Endurance? Yep.

Boxers aren't great athletes by any stretch.

People see someone giving and taking punches for 12 rounds and go "wow, amazing athlete". No, that's one tough human.

Put Tyson Fury in the TDF, Ironman or even a Crossfit regionals and he'd die.

Guys like Floyd wouldn't fare well at all in those sports either.

 

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Wow, just wow. Amazing how someone can be so clueless. You must be some couch potato who has never trained a day in his life to think this ignorant garbage (or maybe you're a crossfitter). You've certainly never set foot in a boxing gym and seen the amount of work and variety of exercises these guys do, that's for sure. You're average amateur boxer who trains for 3x3 rounds would put your crossfitters to shame with their fitness and conditioning, so don't even get started on pros like Mayweather.

 

As for this part, Mcgregor is the one always banging on about money and comparing himself to Mayweather, which is why I bought it up. If he's that talented and that bothered by wealth, then go into boxing, become a top level star and get $20m+ per fight.

 

1) don't see what couture has with the post you quote?

2) JDS losed to another striker - kickboxing overeem, who is also doing great in mma with his striking skills and good takedown defense.
JDS also knocked out a wrestler velasquez once, beat a wrestler shane carwin and a grappler frank mir. with his limited boxing skills and being able to defend takedowns.

3) bowe would do way better than a limited boxer jds with proper training and sparring.

mark hunt did great in mma, past prime with little to no grappling and wrestling skills. hell, he almost submitted a judoka in fedor by watching how to armbar on youtube his stand up is practically boxing, and although he is heavy handed he's a bad boxer, what do you say about that?



also, holly holm pro boxer is destroying mma females and just destroyed number one female in mma, ronda - a wrestler. she just destroyed her with boxing and a little kicks with good takedown defense. why don't you think the same could do a pro boxing champ?

 

I train ALL THE TIME.

Look at a guy like Floyd. His training sessions are tougher than his fights!

Do you REALLY think he could be competitive in a TDF, Ironman, CF?

No, your average amateur would be dying. Jesus, I've rowed in a competition with an amateur boxer and he was SMOKED after rowing 300 meters x15! Different energy systems for different periods of time with different intensities.

Do your homework you utter moron.

 

Oh yeah, in a sport which is barely TWENTY YEARS OLD and has only been in the mainstream for ELEVEN? Remind me, how old is Boxing as a sport again?

You are behind thick, d'ya know that?

 

Almost submitted?

Jesus, Fedor KNEW how clueless Hunt was that he had nothing to worry about. Then Fedor showed him how to execute an arm bar.

Little kicks? Re-watch the fight.

Bowe's LOVE OF A FIGHT would mean he'd be on his back in next to no time.

With regards to JDS - The irony is that he fell in love with his power. Soon realised you need more than power if you're gonna face a well rounded MMA'er like Cain. I've always said that at HW it's ANYONE's game if a Boxer met a MMA'er (to a degree). Below that and a Boxer has no chance.

Bones competes at 205 (CW Division in Boxing). There's not a CW alive that'd beat Bones in a fight.

Woodley/Golovkin? GGG gets beat down within a minute.

Floyd/Pettis - Floyd gets his block knocked off.

It's a styles thing. Most Boxers just aren't as aggressive or explosive as MMA'ers at the top level.

The Couture posts means... People say that Toney was "past it" when he met Randy. Randy was FIFTY YEARS OLD. Hardly a spring chicken that James was up against, right?

Answer me this: If Rousey had beaten Holm, what would your honest opinion and assessment of Holly be? Would she have been a no-mark in boxing (according to you) or would you have still spoken highly of her? I'm guessing it's the former.

 

To beat an Mma fighter? Easy if you can get the Mma fighter to sign up to a boxing match. Fury just mouths off for the general population to get them talking for more pp's he wont ever be going into a mma cage fight with any of their rules.

 

laugh all you want but a limited brawler in mark hunt with no grappling skills almost beat the best mma fighter in that time fedor when he first entered the mma ring. and he's doing a lot of mess in ufc - fact.

ok, glad to see you'r admitting that a boxer has a chance at least at hw, jds proved it. he wouldn't last 2 rounds with bowe in a boxing match, yet he was undisputed ufc hw champ - when he ko'd cain.


look man, i don't really follow ufc much to be honest - i agree with you that a wrestler is always a favorite when facing a boxer. BUT, if a boxer is heavy handed and has a GOOD takedown defense, he has a decent chance. holly holm proved it!

btw- i agree with you that boxers aren't the best athletes. boxing was never a sport who's the better athlete.... plenty of better athletes in nfl, nba, rugby, athletics, pot shooting, oly weight lifting... hell even wrestling

 

jon jones - the best fighter in ufc, and probably the best ever mma fighter is a **** athlete - can't dunk a basketball at 6'4 and 84.5 inch reach. disgraceful!!

 

how much time has the boxer put into his trade and how much time has the MMA fighter put in his trade? the MMA fighter has the advantage by far expecially with the wrestling background. Wrestlers make life difficult for everyone. One slipped punch and the fight is over in a few seconds. Wrestlers are actually a little better natural athletes. No one in the United States pursue a boxing career if the have the athletic ability to do something else.

 

But he didn't though. Jesus, if you knew the ground game, Hunt had no chance of applying it. Fedor showed him how to execute an arm bar.

How would a Boxer have good takedown defence when they DON'T TRAIN IT?

Again, Holly was a Kickboxer yet no KB'ers are taking credit for that... If Rousey would have won, Holly would have been a no-mark your standards I bet!