Punching Power--Marciano or Frazier?

Lol

 

So did Ellis, Machen, Quarry, Daniels, Jones....etc

Not really a drastic size difference between most of their victims.

Frazier was heavier, faster, and more accurate than Marciano, yet did not produce the same devastating results with his punches.

Marciano dropped men with glancing blows, some times not even setting his feet. Frazier needed full leveraged punches.

 

Frazier was bigger but many of his victims were still 200 pound and under guys.

 

How many of Rocky's victims weighed over 200lbs apart from Don ****ell, who had genuine weight problems and was shorter then the Rock.

 

The focus was on results against similar sized opposition, as both men's best stoppage wins came against men under 200.

Not much here.

Note worthy stoppages of 200 pound

****ell 205
Louis 214
Shkor 221
Savold 200
Wilson 230

Chuvalo 217
Mathis 243
Ellis 201
Stander 218
Ramos 208


Louis is the best knockout scalp of this bunch. Ellis was good, ****ell was decent. Chuvalo stopped on a pre existing eye injury, Savold quit. Rest are fringe contenders.

 

Louis weighed 213 and he was old weak and pathetic at that time. Frazier would have knocked him out much faster. The guys that weighed over 200 pounds that rocky stopped were literally garbage.

 

Rocky had power in both hands. Frazier was more left handed.

 

Louis was 37 with only about 30% use of his right hand, ****ell I've mentioned, savold must have been getting on.

 

The Rock was known for his right hand, Frazier his left.

 

I don't see Frazier as being top flight as a puncher,certainly not on Marciano's level,its telling that boosters keep referring to his ko of Bob Foster who was never very durable against decent heavies.

I can't find anything wrong with the post,which is annoying.

 

Wilson was stopped inside a minute and a half with a severe eye cut ,he hadn't been floored or wobbled and protested vociferously at the stoppage. The Shkor ko was impressive according to reports.

 

Louis was never pathetic. NEVER.

Which Frazier knock out I listed is so much better?

 

I know how old Louis was, I also know even at that point he is the best I listed by a good margin, and the most impressive knock out.

So what is your argument now?

You tried to use as Foster to imply Frazier was just as impressive against under 200, but I pointed out all the other men that were in the same weight range he failed to look as powerful against.

You than switched to over 200 pound men in which I don't see much evidence for him over Rocky either.

 

Rocky KOed Moore, Mathews, and Louis with his left.

He had power in both, just more so the right.

 

I just filed him under fringe contender.

I think Stander was stopped on cuts with no knockdowns as well.