Canelo STILL firm on 155 "GGG said 154-168 anyone right?! Be true to your word!"

There's no way GGG is at his full 100% @ 155. 50/50 or no fight if I was him.

 

Racism, that's what.

 

Yea I think 155 is too far also, he's already trim at 160.

 

Was it criminal and disgusting of Floyd to ask Canelo to drain down to 150 so he can get a better split?

 

Yes and actually he asked him to come down to 147 then after a bunch of BS Canelo agreed to settle at 152 and end the drama.

 

Right, I applaud your consistency. I think it’s important to note that all that Floyd DRAMA has LED us to THIS situation we are in now.

Had Floyd not done that to Canelo, Canelo probably beats Floyd and is still undefeated now holding the 154-lb straps and it’s a completely different situation. (after all isn’t that WHY Floyd did the catchweight in the first place, because he was scared of losing to Canelo so he knew his only chance was to weaken Canelo.. what a desperate coward Floyd was to do such a criminal and disgusting thing to Canelo)

That had an effect on Canelo and has made Canelo much more shrewd when it comes to negotiations. Had that not happened, had Floyd just fought Canelo at 154 like a man all this stuff wouldn’t be happening right now. Canelo would have probably never had to fight Cotto at MW since he would have still been the man with the belts at 154.

So these two situation are directly related, and I will continue bringing it up as a comparison until Canelo starts getting more respect around here.

 

And likewise, I ask you : Has Canelo EVER drained an opponent down to a catchweight? NO.

Floyd Cotto and Pacquiao have drained opponents with Catchweights. As far as I know, neither Canelo or GGG have NEVER drained another fighter.

Big DIFFERENCE : Blame Floyd, Cotto and Pacquiao for putting us in this situation.

 

Yep, Floyd was always yapping about "I fight fighters at their best weight, Cotto is undefeated because Margarito loaded his gloves and Pacquiao used a catchweight".

Then Mayweather uses a catchweight for Canelo.

I'm not sure about "blaming", as I understand that fighters and their camps will look for an extra edge in negotiations, and the bigger name has the leverage to make demands and often get what he wants. But I surely don't like it when it happens. Catchweights were used from time and time over history, but now they are done all the time, and fighters who are considered champions of the division are refusing to fight at the weight limit. That's an extra part of the issue with GGG-Canelo, being that Canelo is the lineal middleweight champion of the world but won't fight at the limit. Same thing with Cotto (another fighter who had to drop 2 lbs. to defend his title against a bigger name) and his catchweights while defending his middleweight crown.

I mean there's already a gazillion divisions, and now fighters are creating their own divisions. It's also troubling because it seems like less of an attempt to "level the playing field" between fighters of different weight, but more of an attempt to either avoid a fighter or drain them to compromise their performance. Again, I know that fighters and their camps will try to get an edge, but this is dangerous if they are really drained. It's been scientifically proven that a weight-drained fighter is at more risk from blows around the skull. It was a reason given for the change in weigh-in procedures from the day of the fight to the day before the fight (Flip Homansky regrets it and wants to go back to the old procedure).

I don't know about "outrage" by I know there were a lot of people who criticized Floyd for his hypocrisy.

 

PBF beats any version of Canelo he's a stylistic nightmare for him.:deal More wishful thinking log off. BTW Pac did a catchweight with both Cotto and Margo before PBF did it but you don't mention them because it doesn't suit your agenda.

 

Canelo will get respect when he fights his mando at 160 or drops the belt.

 

People are so stuck on their man-love for a fighter, or their hatred of another, that they actually support this ****. Often times, it's defended by "so and so had a catchweight in this fight!" And? It was annoying then and annoying now. There's too many weight classes as it is, we don't need more.

Actually it could be summed up by the fact that a lot of people just like the fighters more than the sport itself. What is pathetic.

 

Yes but u supported 164... Hmm...

That should be at 168 50-50 split.

 

If that were true, if Canelo were such easy work for Floyd, then why did Floyd even bother draining Canelo? If it were so easy for Floyd to beat Canelo straight up, then he’d have fought him at 154 like he did DLH and Cotto. Obviously Canelo was a much bigger threat to Floyd so he desperately attempted to make Canelo unhealthy. It’s a sign of a desperate fighter.

Not wishful thinking at all, just basic logic. And yes I agree with you that Pac did catchweights to Cotto and Marg before Floyd.

Actually I’ve mentioned that before, in fact I’ve said that I respected Floyd for not doing catchweights. I agreed with what Floyd said to Cotto about how he still considered him an undefeated fighter due the Pac catchweight and Marg loaded gloves.

I know Floyd was just saying that to make Cotto look strong, but still I agreed with it. But then he pulled the catchweight on Canelo and all that respect I had for Floyd went out the window. He did to Canelo what he criticized Pac for, and thus showed himself to be a complete hypocrite.

 

Canelo and GGG are in the same division, not the case with Ward and GGG. Pretty easy to see :deal

 

Canelo cant make 155 much longer. Ggg should just wait end of 16 early 17 must b at 160.

Could b same for ggg but ggg older he will only move to 168 by if he chooses i could b wrong tho.

If ggg would kept his mouth shut n didnt say he would fight any one from 154 to 168 nowone can say anything bad bout him . But he made the mistake of sayin he will fight anyone so now there is just that many more fighters ducked.

Bottom line canelo has the belt n must defend it vs ggg .Should b mandatory it takes place at 160 . Dude its 5lbs