Were 200lb Heavyweights considered small?

Joe frazier never weighed under 200 pounds in his prime. its a bull**** maybe he weighed 199 in one or 2 fights in his debut.just like david tua weighed 201, holmes 188 and ali 190,ruddock 188...

 

I always remember him as Big Joe when I asked people of his generation, including my dad, about Joe Louis.
A bloke I worked with in the 70s when I was an amateur boxing said he'd seen him in either Plymouth or Portsmouth during the war and said Joe was huge.
Louis always looked like he'd been designed to fight, so perfect did he look at 205-208 pounds.
When Liston came along in the late 50s people always said he was big and he was about the same size as Big Joe

 

Luis was taller than liston but liston was bigger ( except for the big head of louis) liston was wider, he had much bigger fists,back, chest,forearm,bíceps etc

 

Louis had perfect 'punchers' shoulders and much more athletic looking legs thanks Charles.
If Sonny's legs had matched his top half, he'd have weighed 224lb.
anybody doubting Liston's 84" reach should watch him landing his jab in his early fights.
He looks out of range like Stallone in the Badly choreographed and unbelievable Rocky films but they land.
At their peaks Sonny and Joe weighed more or less the same.

 

In his autobiography Louis said he was 6'1.5".

 

Frazier was under 200lbs 4 times in his pro career,all in 1966 when he was just 22 years old.

 

What i meant....

 

What's the next line of the song ?
For context.
Perhaps for his immense reputation and legendary power, some people might have expected him to be a giant.

I think people were well aware in the 1930s that some heavyweights were giants, it was almost an age of giants when you research some of the heavyweights who were being touted as prospects. Circus strongmen, wrestlers etc., were pretty huge by then, and hyped like King Kong.

Americans were probably all getting fat in 1943 too, in the war boom years. Some were big and fit, I guess.
It's a well-known fact that big strapping Yanks came over here to England and banged all the women while their men were starving to death in Japanese POW camps or fighting life-and-death in Burmese jungle.

 

My Granddad told me that if a British and American warship were in port at the same time, there was always a mass brawl!

 

Joe Louis was a big man. If 6'1" dosnt sound like a big man you have to realise about frame and such like. A naturally strong man's build. Not like these teenage bodybuilders you see with built up artificial size. They go through life looking like big men but their hands are too small for their wrists.

So Louis was as big for his height as you can get. When I say big man I mean if Louis never boxed the guy would have always been a big big 240 guy as an adult.

Look how plump he looked in his army uniform, and he was a young guy then.

The training was traditional 1930s training that took everyone right down to what it took to be successful in those days.

 

Haha, never heard that one.

 

No. 200 was considered small around the late 1970's. Once the 1980's came around you seldom saw 190-200 pound men ranked highly.