Fury vs Haye revisited

Haye would have owned him in the ring.

 

Adam Smith looks as though he physically came at the mention of 20 men.:yep

 

I imagine you won't get a proper answer due to how emotional people get over Haye and, to a lesser extent, Fury.

For me, in hindsight, this is a difficult one to call. People have to remember that the Fury of today is a completely different fighter to the Fury of old. When this fight was made, Fury was a fighter who had stopped just ploughing forward like he did earlier in his career and he had started to you use his height and reach a bit more. However, he was still hittable and still made mistakes and left himself open when he let his hands go. Because of this most people favoured Haye going into the fight. It wouldn't have been easy, but due to the styles and Fury's relative inexperience, this was seen as a good match up for Haye and, ultimately, a stepping stone for a Vitali fight or Wlad rematch.

However, the Fury we seen in the Chisora fight (the back foot fighter we see today), i believe this is the style Fury was working on for Haye; get haye to come on to him and lead off and then counter him. Fury and his team would have seen that Haye leaps in with his punches and, whilst this may work against smaller fighters, against bigger fighters with a bit of speed and a defensive mentallity, like Wlad, the gap was cleary too much to traverse.

This surprising change in style could have really effected Haye as he would, like most people, be expecting Fury to fight a completely different way. Add in the fact that Fury is clearly better on the back foot than the front foot, then i think Fury could have surprised a lot of people back then.

 

I didn't really catch that, what was that in reference to?

 

The ringside programme really shows up Haye, Smith and Nelson as ignorant muppets laughing at Tyson.

Who's laughing now?

The best heavy in the world. Beat Klitschko, a win over an all time great and ring magazine fighter of the year. All things Haye has never done and will never do.

 

If he would have fought tall like he does today, Haye would have had no chance whatsoever. Haye does not have a heavyweight beard and knows it--hence the stinkers against Valuev and Wlad.

He would have ben ouboxed and stopped. Fury has a 72% knockout ratio...more power than people realize.

 

I gave Fury no chance what so ever. But then I gave him no chance against Vladimir either.

 

:deal

haye with all his speed and explosiveness, is basically a backfoot fighter who lunges in with taller opponents. the footwork is fast but not clever.

Fury would control the fight and not be hit much at all. Its hardly as if haye is a volume pressure puncher who smashes the body.

Haye is what he is. fury has shown more at hw then haye has for sure.

he hasnt been hit much in the last 3 fights, one of them against a 10year reigning super champ. now look at hayes performance against a 7'2 statue who couldnt get out of his own way.

 

fury has proven he can beat wlad, and wlad minimalized haye.

 

I gave Fury a good chance back then but thought it would have been more like the Cunningham fight.

Now seeing the new style Fury boxing off the back foot I give him an even better chance of winning this fight, I would have him clear favourite back then and even more so now.

 

Fury does Haye, he does him whichever way he feels like doing him.

And Haye was a coward and a liar for pulling out twice like he did. That is immoral and bad behaviour.

 

Wondering this as well...?

 

Good points, well made...