Joe Louis had the most underrated chin in heavyweight history.

Louis had a good chin.
If I remember rightly, 6 men knocked him down.

4 of them were world heavyweight champions.
Walcott and Marciano did it when Louis was way past his prime, and both were excellent punchers.
Schmeling was a stiff accurate damaging puncher. If you see how many times he caught Louis flush in that first fight, it's remarkable that Louis stood up as much as he did.
Braddock was a fair hitter, and scored a very brief KD against an off-balance Louis.

Tony Galento and Buddy Baer were big 230+ power punchers,

 

The pure truth

 

I have already given you my answer to that.

Fighters are much more likely to get knocked down, when they start facing the best opposition in the division, i.e. ranked contenders.

Since a disproportionately high percentage of Louis’s fights were against ranked contenders (even by the standards of an all-time great heavyweight), we should expect him to have sustained more knockdowns than the others.

Just the law of averages.

 

Magoo,

Please read this, and I hope it makes sense and you will adopt what I'm about to say.

Here's a quick fact. Wladimir Klitschko holds the record for a champion going the longest amount of time without being floored! Do you think he has a good chin? I do not and I'm a fan of his.

Chins' are best graded when hit. How the fighter reacts to it, and the level of the puncher doing it tells you everything

Louis fought in a time when the talent was low and didn't face many skilled punchers. In addition, his offense meant the other fighters went out quickly or often stayed away from him, limiting the times his chin was checked.

So let's see when it was checked.

Billy Conn below 170 pounds who has a very low KO% stunned Louis.

Tommy Farr did the same. It's on film.

I would not call Jimmy Braddock who by the way was on a two-year layoff a heavyweight puncher either. Yet he flooded Louis.

**What we have here are telltale signs of Louis not having a good chin at all as these three are not punches at all!**

Better punchers who Louis face in Galento floored him, and Mauriello who would only be an average puncher at best today stung Louis in round one before getting stopped in round one. All of the above examples are on film where his chin was checked.

No need to talk about what Marciano did to him, but I would say the best puncher than Louis fought who landed a significant shots are both Rocky and Schmeling.

One big punch from Schmeling had Louis visibly affected for the rest of the fight. What if Louis' time had more skilled punchers? He's in some trouble.

These are his 2 KO losses.

Bottom line, Louis chin is suspect vs punchers, and not good.

Yes-- Louis faced Max Baer. Bear landed hardly anything at all, so Louis chin was not tested.

Where I think Louis is underrated is his heart. He'd get up and try even under adversity. There was no quit in the man on the topic of taking punches.

Yes, it is. Right there on film and in print. It really does not take a lot of extrapolations to come to this conclusion. No one here can say what I wrote is not true. They can only argue shades of grey on the above.

Now for my opinion....too many people here allow blind patriotism to trump their objective reasoning when their favorites are in question.

Or they simply have not seen enough films or read enough to change their opinion.

 

Mauriello only an average puncher? He had 81 wins in which he scored 60 stoppages.
Buddy Baer had 49 kos in 53 wins and a near 80% ko record.
Tony Galento scored 57kos in 80 wins.


Louis had 69 fights and was stopped just twice ,both times by very good punchers who wore him down.


You get more absurd with every post!

 

If Louis’s chin was so bad, you have to ask why nobody was ever able to stop him, without hitting him with everything except the kitchen sink.

It’s not like he didn’t give people enough chances.

Nearly half of his professional fights were against fighters currently ranked in the top ten.

That is a ridiculous statistic.

I submit that such weaknesses in his chin as were there to be exploited were fairly comprehensively tested.

You have to either conclude that he had a good chin, or that he was some sort of defensive genius, who kept beating the odds longer than anybody else ever did.

 

Schmeling pounded on him all night.
Marciano hit him with everything before he finally wore down.Max Baer landed after the bell and Louis ignored it. Mendoza is the resident Louis knocker.
He had crooked referee's, gangster management et al ,it's nauseating.

 

His chin was very good .. Scheming was a easy puncher at cruiser and hit him with dozens of his best shots before finally stopping him .. Max raved about his chin .. Braddock had a good right and that knock down was a flash .. Galento was a brutal hooker and Joe got up fast and handled hit terrific .. We all know Wal;cost was a hell of a hitter and Marciano speaks for itself .. Louis took a very good punch and had exceptional recuperative powers ..

 

Context is important, and with Louis's record there is a hell of a lot of context.

 

His chin was a 6 out of 10

 

He said that Maueriello would be an average puncher today.... You seem slightly obsessed with Mendoza, it's rather worrying. Every post I see him post you're quoting. :nono

 

he had great chin yes.

he is joe freakin Louis DUH.

 

Why would he be an average puncher today ? Have punchers somehow got more power recently? Mauriello's stats speak for themselves, as do Mendoza's posts on Joe Louis.
Don't let it worry you, Mendoza is a cretin and a compulsive liar. What's the matter Blunder ? Still smarting after I corrected your post below?

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Only mcvey can claim Wilder would beat Marciano.

There's no doubting that Wilder's 83 inch reach would pose serious problems for Marciano. But, that's as far as it goes. His power would not trouble Marciano who we all know had an iron chin.
Here is the post that has my pick in it,perhaps you should have read it before making your post?

"I agree Wilder is still untested at top level and Molina staggered him badly twice.Wilder has a fast hard jab and an 83" reach,could he connect enough times to get Rocky bleeding? Could Rocky sand bag that skinny waist ,slowing Wilder down and making him a more static target.
Wilder is a long puncher he doesn't do much at close range,could Rocky get under that Albatross wingspan and,"kill the body"? I'll pick Marciano 60/40"
Maybe change your name from BLUNDELL to BLUNDER?

 

why average puncher today?