After watching the first seven rounds of Guerrero-Garcia

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  1. TMH

    TMH Active Member Full Member

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    The scorecards are unrealistic. EDIT: Guerrero won this fight :( Garcia consistently missed with his jab. You don't get points for missing.
     
  2. Leoh

    Leoh Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    At the end of the 7th I had it 4-3 for Garcia. I think 7-5 to Garcia in the end would be the most accurate score.
     
  3. amunz81

    amunz81 Well-Known Member Full Member

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  4. TMH

    TMH Active Member Full Member

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    I think the punch stats by round would have Guerrero ahead. Sheer volume per round. Jabs and power punches. Also Guerrero landed a lot in the first round where Garcia landed almost nothing.
     
  5. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    After a rough start I had Garcia up 4-3 in 7 and 7-5 overall

    Guerrero lost steam kept missing and ate big punches
     
  6. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    Guerrero did not win this fight
     
  7. RingKing

    RingKing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I have no problem with the decision. Guerrero started off very well, but then all of a sudden there was a momentum change around the 6th round. I figured he's just taking a break and then he'll continue where he left off. It never came.

    I wonder if Guerrero's loyalty to his dad cost him to become a world champ (Yes, he was a champ at the lower weights, but fought no one that was world class, except for Salido). If he had a world class trainer, for example a Garcia or Gossen, would he have changed his style a bit? I know he wants to make it a rough and tumble affair, but by doing so, he smothers a lot of his work and doesn't get good leverage on his shots. He also didn't really invest in any body work, which would have slowed down Garcia a lot. Last of all, his defense is horrible. His dad clearly is in over his head and needs to go. Even though it might be too late, I'd like to see Guerrero train with someone who can give him advice during a fight.

    If Garcia isn't careful, he will also fall into this "what if" category.
     
  8. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    Yea Guerrero won the 1rst half with jab to the body, Garcia wasn't doing anything first 6 rounds he looked lost. 2nd half he knew his power wasn't making Guerrero flinch, didn't have the effect to back him off as Thurman mentioned, so he started using a lead right hand, which he should of been using since the beginning against a southpaw. I think a split decision or draw is fair, no way Garcia threw or landed more punches than Guerrero the cards are way off. Floyd had Guerrero winning, that's how close the fight was.
     
  9. alspacka

    alspacka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    True compubox stats were absolute rubbish. Don't see a case for a Guerrero win though. Draw would be feasible but generous. Most Garcia rounds were clear as day.
     
  10. beachie17

    beachie17 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I had it exactly the same as the judges, Guerrero was competitive for the first half of the fight but through rounds 7-11 took an absolute beating really.
     
  11. IKSAB

    IKSAB Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Yeah I mean why even bother watching a fight when you can just score it afterwards using the punch stats
     
  12. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    Punch stats are an interesting aside but people place too much by them. Power punches? Great.... but how do you know they are unless you're taking them? And who's collating these stats? How accurate are they and how neutral is the person or people recording them? At least we know the names of the judges, but not that of the boffin at a PC pressing keys. Garcia won the fight.
     
  13. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I thought the fight was close but the commentary from Sergio Mora was a disgrace.
     
  14. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I had it about 116-112 or 115-113 Garcia.
     
  15. Kush

    Kush Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No doubt Guerrero won