What would it take for a boxer to beat an MMA fighter

Are you being serious?

 

no leg kicks

 

The overwhelmimg majority of her fight training and experience is boxing. She's a novice mixed martial artist by comparison.

To suggest otherwise is disingenuous at best.

Grasp at all the straws you want, nothing changes the fact that a career boxer, years removed from her prime, stepped into the cage and destroyed the most legendary mix martial artist that ever lived.

 

Well, the more they cross-train, the better their chances. But, I think with a 90% boxing game, they could still get away with a lot IMO. Sylvia kicked Mercer right in the leg in a fight he thought was going to be purely hands days before, and without having anyone show him how to check kicks, did just fine. Now I'm not suggesting it's easy for just anyone to go in there and start taking vicious leg kicks like it's no problem, but easier than competing with a boxer at what they do best.

If I were training a boxer in an MMA fight with almost entirely boxing knowledge:

-I'd have him crouch, so that he isn't so upright and his legs are easily there for the taking.

-Out of that crouch, extend his lead hand to measure the distance well.

-Lots of stiff jabs to the body, so that the opposing MMA fighter isn't confidently guaranteed an opening when you throw high at the head. This betters your chances of feinting low and coming up top with something hard.

-Use that lead hand for head control if they go for a takedown while backstepping, and perhaps an emergency sprawl.

-Emphasize pivots and side-steps when rushed. Throw and step to the side; feint and change the angle; instead of relying solely on sprawling, practice pushing while moving to either side, like a matador with a bull. When they're turning to adjust to your angle, they aren't set to shoot; jump in with leads and finish to the body. Shamrock emphasized angles a lot for TD defense.

-Drill counters for when they dive for a takedown. Timing that kind of punch is easier said than done but not impossible. The crouch would also help ensuring the punch gets under them and not over their head as they grab your legs. Uppercuts, check hooks, low straight rights, and if you can push their head to either side while stepping, a shot from the other hand.

-Lastly, drill some oldschool dirty boxing in the clinch techniques. Kind of a lost art but could prove invaluable if caught in a tight spot with someone who can manipulate your limbs, throw knees, and lift you and drop you on your head.

 

^ Here we have the difference between Bogotazo, a quality poster, and Brujo who knows nothing. Take notes, kiddies.

 

:yep

 

Ronda sure got matador'd by Holly:

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That's the answer right there. All one has to do is watch the Holly - Rousey fight to know what's needed. Movement, and good punch, mix up your shots and if you could learn to kick, and stop a take down, those are bonuses. But if you do get taken down, it's probably game over.

 

^Random thought, a boxer's best bet might be to train to neutralize, not beat, a grappler on the ground, so that the ref breaks it up. Almost like clinching in boxing.

 

Good point. Basically grab as tight as possible and stifle movement. A boxer's strength is especially upper body so this could work in certain positions.

Old-school Igor Vovchanchyn used to just keep punching. But he had huge upper body strength and a compact, muscular build, which helped get power shots to hurt at close range. He was also notorious for smashing up the ears of guys in his guard. Check out his fight with Nick Nutter, who basically dominated Vovchanchyn on the ground, only to eventually lose to headbutts from the bottom in a gruesome fight. He won, but at what cost ...

 

It's not especially hard to stay on your feet and get shots off against a grappler when there is a big disparity in speed, agility and general athleticism in favour of the boxer. This is something people over look or don't understand because they have never fought. We saw what Holm did to Rousey by just using simple lateral movement and counter punching, she was beating the living daylights out of Rousey with her straight up boxing before she employed any other martial arts. But as has been said, we will never see a top level male boxer in his prime step into the octagon.

 

Following up on my early post, and inspired by another thread, these gifs are pretty decent showings of punches as deterrents to changing levels for a takedown.

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To be an MMA fighter.

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Now that's a TERRIBLE example. Ronda isn't even a mma fighter, she's just a wrestler. She went so far only because women's level is beyond ****ty.

No mma fighter worth a cent would have done as bad as Rousey The Stiff Sloth did

 

For Joe Rogan, maybe, and only when he was closed in the bathroom ****ing furiously over her butterface :roll: