Worst Matchups for these ATGS?

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  1. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    In their prime weight classes, who are the toughest matchups, style wise, for the following fighters:

    Ali
    Bowe
    M.Spinks
    Hagler
    Monzon
    SRL
    Mayweather
    Duran
    Whitaker
    Sanchez
    W. Gomez
     
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  2. McGrain

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    Ali - Frazier
    Bowe - Louis
    M.Spinks - Tyson
    Hagler - Guys who aren't on film, maybe - Greb, Holman Williams, Mike Gibbons.
    Monzon - Ray Robinson
    SRL - Ray Robinson
    Mayweather - Roberto Duran
    Duran - Mickey Walker
    Whitaker - Roberto Duran
    Sanchez - Saddler
    W. Gomez- Juan Manuel Marquez
     
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  3. emallini

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    Roy Jones for Hagler
     
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  4. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Possibly, but you have to have your doubts.

    Was he really that unlucky?
     
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    Ali - Frazier
    Bowe - Liston
    M.Spinks - not sure he has a nightmare style match at LHW, so I'm going Tyson
    Hagler - Gibbons
    Monzon - Gibbons
    SRL - Robinson
    Mayweather - Armstrong
    Duran - Whittaker
    Whitaker - Armstrong
    Sanchez - Arguello
    W. Gomez - Pacquiao
     
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  6. GoldenHulk

    GoldenHulk Boxing Addict Full Member

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    For Larry Holmes - Corrie Sanders, Chris Byrd, Michael Moorer because all are talented southpaws, don't recall Holmes fighting any.
     
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  7. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    You guys are cheating. :nono
     
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  8. Xplosive

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    Ali - Prime Ali? I don't think any heavyweight beats prime Ali, but I'd give prime Tyson the best shot at it.

    Bowe - Prime Foreman is the worst matchup for Bowe.

    M.Spinks - At 175, Spinks could POTENTIALLY beat any lightheavyweight in history.

    Hagler - Prime Jones would be the worst matchup for Hagler.

    Monzon - I think Robinson at his best would be all wrong for Monzon.

    Leonard - Really none at welter. Leonard is arguably the best welterweight that ever lived. I'm not even sure Robinson beats him. That's more/less a pick em fight.

    Mayweather - Depends. What weight? At 130, nobody beats Floyd. At 135, Duran and Whitaker were both bad matchups for him. At 140, Pryor was a bad matchup for him. At 147, easily Leonard. Leonard would have been a HORRIBLE matchup for Floyd.

    Duran - I think Whitaker's POSSIBLY a bad matchup for him. Duran vs Whitaker at 135 is close to a pick em. Other than Whitaker, no lightweight in history beats Duran.

    Whitaker - At welter? Probably Hearns. 135-140 Whitaker possibly beats any fighter in history.

    Sanchez - I kinda think Arguello. Sal got hit.... a lot. I don't think that's good for him against Arguello.

    W.Gomez - At 122 I don't see anybody beating him. At 126 there's a lot of guys who beat him.
     
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  9. Brixton Bomber

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    Don't see how ANYONE can not mention Hearns as being THE worst style match-up for Floyd at 147.

    He'd give Floyd fits on top of fits!
     
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  10. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Some very good picks, although I still don't get why you (and many others here) see Whitaker as such a bad matchup for Mayweather instead of vice versa. And I think that Hearns is a far worse matchup for Mayweather at 147 than Leonard.

    From what I've seen, I think a mover like RJJ or even Nunn could also give Monzon serious trouble.
     
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  11. N_ N___

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    Ali--Tyson

    Bowe--Ali (see Biggs, Tubbs)

    M.Spinks--Charles

    Hagler--Jones

    Monzon--Jones

    SRL--maybe Robinson, Norris or Mayweather. Hearns too.

    Mayweather--Hearns

    Duran--@135 Mayweather, Mosley

    Whitaker--Mayweather
    Sanchez--Lomachenko

    W. Gomez--haven't watched much of him
     
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  12. foreman&dempsey

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    So tyson is a lhw now
     
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  13. KuRuPT

    KuRuPT Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    maybe because Whitaker is his superior and would likely beat him?
     
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  14. KuRuPT

    KuRuPT Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wait, how is a Mayweather a bad matchup for Pea? I see Pea winning that fight. Regardless of how you see the fight going, I'd name other fighters that are worse for Pea than Money May
     
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  15. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    :roll:
     
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