Haymon and PBC in trouble?

So by this time next year we might not have a PBC anymore.

 

:yep

I wonder why they REALLY want to see PBC go under???

The reasons they give make 0 sense.

 

I can't conceive of a way for Haymon to embezzle, steal, or fraud his way into that sort of capital.

 

So you're claiming GBP would rather be on Estrella TV as opposed to where the use to be?

C'mon now.

Baby steps...more like baby shi.t

 

No, you just made that up. I wrote they are hitting their target demographic, spanish speaking viewers. You know the ones that make Floyd's favorite day to fight so financially worth it? atsch

 

:nut

Dizzy-as.s hater.

Where do you get all that UNPROVEN shi.t from.

Unlike Top Rank...
1.Haymon's offices have never been raided by the FBI
2.Haymon has never been fined for buying rankins
3.Haymon has never been under investigation for fixing fights.

Come back when any of that actually happens/

 

Whose hating? Haymon is as clean as a whistle after it's been stuffed up your ass right?

 

MORE Spanish speaking viewers have HBO latino and ESPN deportes than Estrella TV:deal

 

Wow.

This guy is:-patschroll: all at the same time.

 

And you don't seem to understand what you're watching.

How many broadcast shows shift to PPV once they build up an audience? ZERO.

You're looking at this like he's trying to create a new TV show.

He's buying time to gain exposure for these boxers ... so they can be the next generation of PPV fighters.

They weren't getting much exposure on Showtime. Now they're getting three, four, five times as many people tuning in as saw them on Showtime back in 2013 and 2014.

These guys aren't all going to be fighting on regular TV forever.

They want people to get to know them now.

Expect Garcia to fight Khan and probably Thurman at the end of the year ... and next year ... when the two-year TV deals are up ... the guys who can sell PPVs will fight on PPV and the guys who aren't ready will continue to fight on CBS and NBC. And all the Spike and Bounce and others won't be a part of it going forward.

I wouldn't be surprised if the winner of Garcia-Thurman fights Mayweather in 2017 on a big PPV. (Likely Garcia). And it's your De La Hoya-Mayweather passing of the torch fight.

One Mayweather-size fight basically fills the coffers again.

 

This thread and topic isn't about GBP, but seeing as how you still have that whistle up your ass, go for it and ignore the topic.

This guy? Haha, loss for words huh... :hi:

 

i'm laughing at you...not with you.:rofl

 

By this time next year, about 12 million people will have seen guys like Garcia, Thurman, etc. fight ... and they'll start to transition the guys at the top next year to PPVs.

And the younger guys coming up ... and the established guys who aren't PPV talent ... will keep fighting on the networks.

But it won't be on as many channels. They're just blanketing everything now to limit the competition.

Basically, you can't grow the sport and create a new generation of PPV stars without exposing boxing to more people. That's all he's doing.

 

Boxing was on network television in the U.S. from the time the first TVs were distributed in the late 1940s until the late 1980s and early 1990s. They left network television in the U.S. because the bigger stars were paid big sums by HBO and Showtime to help grow cable - which needed something to draw in subscribers and boxing was inexpensive to produce and had an audience (because of network TV).

Go back and look at the ratings boxing generated on network television in those 50 years. They always had solid ratings.

Saying boxing never made money for network television is a flat out lie (or you just have no clue what you're talking about or any knowledge of boxing history and TV).

Now, boxing has been on subscription television for 20 plus years ... and the audience for the sport has shrunk to the point that it's now a niche sport. Cable slowly killed the boxing fanbase ... like network TV killed the boxing clubs around the U.S.

The audience was just too small for too many years.

Now subscription channels - like HBO, Showtime, and many others - have found they can make more money producing their own Cable series' and generate more subscribers that way. And they own the content. They can sell it to other entities (like Netflix, Hulu, Amazon Prime), they can partner with those entities, they can even sell edited versions of their series' in syndication.

So if you think boxing can just survive on HBO and Showtime forever ... you're the one who doesn't know what he's talking about.

The days of boxing on those premium channels are numbered. In the first four months of this year, HBO has three boxing telecasts. THREE.

It's time to make a move. Haymon's making THE BIG move. Get these guys on network television, build up the base again, get people familiar with fighters ... try to take a dying sport and breathe some life into it ... and build the next generation of PPV stars.

Sorry, Barchman. But if you think boxing can survive on subscription cable ... YOU ARE LIVING IN THE 90s.

That era is about over. Go to the HBO GO, go to Showtime's app, they are all about creating and marketing and selling their original series. And that's what's generating new subscribers.

It sure as hell isn't Gennady Golovkin and his 150,000 ppvs.

Anyone hoping boxing fails on the networks and everything will be fine and HBO and Showtime will keep paying millions for it are the idiots.

:hi:

 

:deal


You mean GGG and his 94,000 ppv buys.