Prime Marciano V Tysons Challengers?

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  1. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    the film does not lie.

    So what? This does not undo the fact that Archie beat the #1 and #2 heavyweight contenders to earn that crack at Rocky.

    I think Archie Moore, Sonny Liston and Muhammad Ali are the only guys to do such a thing.

    Consider Foreman beat 4-15 Terry Sorrell to earn his crack at Frazier.
     
  2. The Mongoose

    The Mongoose I honor my bets banned

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    In the 5 rounds filmed and counted Marciano is averaging about 70 punches around. That's more than Tua did against Ike, and almost all of them were power punches with bad intentions.

    And by most accounts, Marciano was in the 60 to 100 range from the 6th round on.

    Marciano pulls similar numbers in filmed fights against Cokell and Moore so it wasn't just a one off like Tua vs Ike.

    There is no debate.
     
  3. ribtickler68

    ribtickler68 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    See how this links in with my Ali thread, now? Soon, every 240lb plus fighter will be rated over Ali due to the size difference. After all it's only fair.
     
  4. ribtickler68

    ribtickler68 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    And no footwork. Yet with a lightweights reach he managed to hit everyone he faced multiple times.
     
  5. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Haha, yep
     
  6. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member

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    I think I can spell 5 letter words, how about yourself?
    BTW, it isn't could not, it's would not. or was that a typo too?

    I hope by now you really detest me:yep
     
  7. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member

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    Marciano threw 691 punches in 9rds against Archie Moore Marciano was 32 years old and188lbs.

    Vitali Klitschko threw 727 punchers in12 rds against Shannon Briggs .

    Vitali was 39 years old and 251lbs .

    Two questions.
    1 Which is more admirable ?
    2 Was Vitali known for setting fast paces in his fights?

    Thanks for the amusement.
     
  8. The Mongoose

    The Mongoose I honor my bets banned

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    I know I can spell five letter words.

    You are incorrect. My sentence was speculative and not describing a certain future event.

    Again, very sad post. Why don't you describe your wonderful life again and ensure us your not as pathetic as you appear to be.
     
  9. The Mongoose

    The Mongoose I honor my bets banned

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    1. Admirable is irrelevant. The fact is Marciano was busier against a superior opponent.
    2. Vitali didn't pressure his opponents, he threw off the back foot.

    These awful questions were amusing.
     
  10. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member

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    No ,your sentence was incorrect grammar.
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    Or there is a big fight in NY or Vegas?
     
  11. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member

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    quote=The Mongoose;17733161]1. Admirable is irrelevant. The fact is Marciano was busier against a superior opponent.
    2. Vitali didn't pressure his opponents, he threw off the back foot.

    These awful questions were amusing.[/quote]

    You made punch stats the issue.



    Amusing questions,and two you didn't answer.
     
  12. The Mongoose

    The Mongoose I honor my bets banned

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    No, using "will" as an uncertainty is incorrect.

    I don't read fiction.
     
  13. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace

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    My maths could be off here but don't those stats favour Rocky?
     
  14. mcvey

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    No you write it!
    :lol:
     
  15. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member

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    Point being Vitali was 63lbs heavier and was 6 years older. It puts Marciano's stats into perspective I would say.