How much of an indicator is Rocky vs Shkor?

You won't win with the Rocky Fan Club ,you'll just be labelled a hater.:-(

 

Why?

 

The wagons are forming a circle.atsch

 

And Marciano fought him in what was essentially the final fight of his active career.

I am sorry that people feel they have to do such mental gymnastics to try and grasp the flimsiest of evidence for their agenda. It's a pain to witness.

 

But witness it regularly we do.:-(

 

not sure what Ali has to do with this thread to be honest.

 

and even to the premise of the thread, how would one result against a very mediocre "almost SHW" be indicative of Rocky's performance in an era when he would be facing SHW types, or close to it, almost everytime out? Not only the power of B-level guys like Bonecrusher Smith but the work in the trenches against such behemoths. How is that old and oft-hurt back going to hold up training for and fighting against giants. No more menu of blown up light heavies and retirees. I simply don't see how the same fighter who fought in the 1950's could make a championship run in the 1990's or even 2000's. It's not the same argument that he couldn't win a one-off against some mediocre superheavy.

 

Marciano in 2000 vs the following names would have made for a splendid cast..


Juan Carlos Gomez
Virgil Hill
Vassiliy Jirov
Johnny Nelson
Marcelo Fabian Dominguez
Arthur Williams
Carl Thompson
James Toney
Fabrice Tiozzo
Louis Azille

 

Absolutely at cruiserweight.

 

Read the first post. That's not the premise of the thread.

 

I think what Marciano fans are trying to argue is that Shkor proves that Rocky can handle a bigger HW who does actually have some skill. Now Shkor is no where near majority of the superheavies that came later but he was still a big man with skills. According to some bigger man with skills always beats smaller man with skills. Especially someone who many people consider crude like Marciano. I will say Rocky is unproven against an actual world class SHW but that doesn't mean he loses to one or beats them either. I have no clue either way he might surprise or disappoint.

 

F*ck All is the answer.:good

 

How do you judge Shkor's"skills," by all the footage you've seen of him? Or perhaps his record is a more reliable indicator of his abilities?:think

 

I couldn't imagine someone in the forties or fifties with fifty fights when he fought Rocky not knowing at least a thing or two about boxing. I didn't say he had super skills. Who's to say he wasn't what film has anyone here seen of him?

 

My answer is that this fight backs Marciano up, as far as it goes.

We could say based on it, that the available evidence does not suggest him to have stylistic problems, with this type of fighter.

We could even take it to suggest that he would have beaten the superheavyweights, who fell short of being the best in the division.

It does not tell us a great deal about how he would have done against Lennox Lewis however.