Hopkins vs Golovkin at 168-170

CST80 · Feb 2, 2016

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Besides the fact he'd get never-ending hate for beating up an old man if he did blow him out of the ring (which I think he would), but it'd be at 168 and he'd have to squeeze back down not that long after for Sept fight w/ Canelo.

And on the May fight, it was based off the expectation that K2 WOULDN'T have agreed to a voluntary defense and WBC would've had to have made a decision to either choose Canelo or their own rules. Apparently, K2 was totally cool with "marinating" the fight as well. Which, to me, waiting isn't doing much. This fight is already as hyped as it's going to get. Having GGG fight Wade and Canelo fight a no hoper is not hyping the fight anymore. If anything it might hurt it. Canelo coming off his win with Cotto was perfect hype.
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They call Hopkins (or he calls himself) The Alien for a reason, you should watch some Hopkins before saying GGG blows him out of the ring, no one blows BHop out of the ring, not even Kovalev, he's as skilled if not more so than Mayweather and he definitely has more tricks up his sleeve than Floyd, including dirty tricks which he will use and he's great at getting away with it, and add to that he's a brilliant rhythm breaker something that will definitely trouble GGG, every thing that goes for Ward against GGG the same applies to Hopkins, he's defensively sound as they come, even Kovalev didn't land with a high frequency on him, he's also a great counter puncher with deceptive power, according to Rosado he said Hopkins hits harder than anyone he's been in the ring with IIRC. They sparred together.

Hopkins would destroy Canelo even now, probably KO him late, and right before fighting Kovalev he was coming off of beating 3 fighters younger than GGG, who were also much bigger Light Heavyweights. He would also school Abraham and Murray with little effort, and I think he could probably beat Stevenson even now. GGG could lose this match, and I say this as one of GGG's biggest supporters on here. Hopkins lost to Kovalev because he was terrified of what was coming back at him like I said previously, Kovalev illicits terror and utter hopelessness in his victims, and I can guarantee Murray wouldn't be trying to survive in the 11th against Kovalev, because he would dead by then.

HerolGee · Feb 2, 2016

game of two halves, 3g gets outboxed early on then swamps gassing bhop later on for a points win.

eltirado · Feb 2, 2016

Time is on Hopkins side, if he takes his time he can make 160 easy, he will not gain any advantage at 170 & will just lose legacy points.

Potentially historic fight at 160, especially if B-Hop can take whatever belt left (breaking his own record in the process) by then to give the Undisputed nature of the fight maximum value.

Rumsfeld · Feb 2, 2016

CST80 said: ↑

They call Hopkins (or he calls himself) The Alien for a reason, you should watch some Hopkins before saying GGG blows him out of the ring, no one blows BHop out of the ring, not even Kovalev, he's as skilled if not more so than Mayweather and he definitely has more tricks up his sleeve than Floyd, including dirty tricks which he will use and he's great at getting away with it, and add to that he's a brilliant rhythm breaker something that will definitely trouble GGG, every thing that goes for Ward against GGG the same applies to Hopkins, he's defensively sound as they come, even Kovalev didn't land with a high frequency on him, he's also a great counter puncher with deceptive power, according to Rosado he said Hopkins hits harder than anyone he's been in the ring with IIRC. They sparred together.

Hopkins would destroy Canelo even now, probably KO him late, and right before fighting Kovalev he was coming off of beating 3 fighters younger than GGG, who were also much bigger Light Heavyweights. He would also school Abraham and Murray with little effort, and I think he could probably beat Stevenson even now. GGG could lose this match, and I say this as one of GGG's biggest supporters on here. Hopkins lost to Kovalev because he was terrified of what was coming back at him like I said previously, Kovalev illicits terror and utter hopelessness in his victims, and I can guarantee Murray wouldn't be trying to survive in the 11th against Kovalev, because he would dead by then.
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We don't agree on everything, but regarding Golovkin I think we're almost completely on the same page.

:smoke

CST80 · Feb 2, 2016

Rumsfeld said: ↑

We don't agree on everything, but regarding Golovkin I think we're almost completely on the same page.

:smoke
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:good I love GGG, but like with most things I love, I try not to lose perspective, Pascal and Hopkins beat everybody on GGG's resume with the greatest of ease....as does Nathan Cleverly. And I say this as a someone who wrote a small novel defending GGG's resume.

BCS8 · Feb 2, 2016

OLD Hopkins gets destroyed. Sorry, but those are the facts.

BCS8 · Feb 2, 2016

I simply can't see GGG losing to a guy that he has a speed advantage over. Add to that youth, footwork, punching power, chin, punch variety, stamina ... if Hopkins could pull this off he's a boxing god.

Edit: A guy around his weight that he has a speed advantage over, let's be clear on this.

Rumsfeld · Feb 2, 2016

BCS8 said: ↑

I simply can't see GGG losing to a guy that he has a speed advantage over. Add to that youth, footwork, punching power, chin, punch variety, stamina ... if Hopkins could pull this off he's a boxing god.

Edit: A guy around his weight that he has a speed advantage over, let's be clear on this.
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Do you really think Golovkin has the speed advantage over Hopkins? I've always viewed that as one of Golovkin's biggest disadvantages in a potential bout with B-Hops.

BCS8 · Feb 2, 2016

Geez, Old Hopkins didn't seem that fast against Kovalev. Maybe I'm misrememberating or something. I'll have to watch it again. If you're right, then maybe Bhop could spoil his way to some sort of decision. :huh

Still I think he's simply too old, regardless of his condition for his age.

RC31 · Feb 2, 2016

LOL @ all the votes from GGG fans :rofl

Kovalev couldn't KO Hopkins but GGG will? :rofl

BCS8 · Feb 2, 2016

RC31 said: ↑

LOL @ all the votes from GGG fans :roflKovalev couldn't KO Hopkins but GGG will? :rofl
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Hopkins is wrinkling by the minute. The next time you look over, he'll be a raisin. I don't think Kovalev was really trying until Hopkins taunted him, btw.

Pimp C · Feb 2, 2016

Hopkins to be honest needs to just retire he's like 52. He's had his day and has nothing left to prove.

The Shockmaster · Feb 2, 2016

"LOL @ all the votes from GGG fans

Kovalev couldn't KO Hopkins but GGG will"?

my fave is how they say ggg is the only guy who could maybe beat kovalev....but when you ask them why ggg wouldn't fight ward at 168 its "well ward is 2 divisions higher"....I mean...LOL

The Shockmaster · Feb 2, 2016

oh..lets not forget "ggg is a small middleweight"

PaddyGarcia · Feb 2, 2016

Don't want to see this fight really. Hopkins is still a decent fighter even at this age but after the Kovalev battering I think a W against him now has lost some credibility. To his credit, Hopkins doesn't get stopped. Although with GGG's left hook to the body I wouldn't rule out a KO by body shot entirely. But yeah, hopefully this remains a hypothetical fight, not interested in seeing it.

Before I forget, the obligatory ***Andre Ward Klaxon***

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