Why AJ v Haye isn't the biggest fight in the UK

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  1. billy nelson

    billy nelson the fighting scots gym Full Member

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    Haye claiming him against Anthony will be bigger than Bruno v Lennox, no way would that be the case the reason being Bruno and Lennox were Hero's to the UK public!
    It's certainly NOT the biggest fight has Mr Haye forget TYSON FURY is the world champ and achieved everything Haye is talking about!
    Haye imo beat a poor champ in Valuev and defended against opponents on the slide until his very poor performance against Klitchko, of co**** he will look good against inferior opponents but not against the elite heavies
     
  2. PaddyGarcia

    PaddyGarcia Trivial Annoyance Gold Medalist Full Member

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    Mostly agree actually.

    I do think Haye is very good but still - to a degree - unproven at world HW level
     
  3. gmurphy

    gmurphy Land of the corrupt, home of the robbery! banned Full Member

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    Billy I wouldn't get worked up mate anyone with half a brain doesn't take any notice of what that clown says
     
  4. TERRYTIBBS

    TERRYTIBBS Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    One hundred percent agree Billy
     
  5. thehayemaker

    thehayemaker Member Full Member

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    I don't understand the thread. Why so many irrelevant points?

    It is the biggest fight in British boxing right now. Maybe money wise the biggest fight in British boxing history but in terms of boxing levels probably not better than lennox v bruno
     
  6. boxingcrazy

    boxingcrazy Boxing Addict Full Member

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    although i agree with everything you are saying it is like the pot crying the kettle black lol

    you were screaming about ricky when he was champ like he was an elite fighters and no 1 in division blah blah blah but in reality he beat a decent fighter in rocky martinez who is nowhere near elite level then fought very poor opposition until he was battered by raymundo beltran and was totally outclassed by terence crawford. even crawford at the time wasn't elite although he may end up that way.

    of course haye will big up a fight with aj as it makes the most money out there and probably even more than if he fought tyson fury because aj has caught the publics imagination and can sell arenas and ppv. and that is something that tyson fury has so far been unable to do and i don't think him being champion will change that, i actually think that david haye is still a bigger draw than tyson fury.
     
  7. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    I wonder if Haye had known just how unfairly his career would have been judged due to his lack of ambition against Wlad, if he would have been more aggressive and actually tried to win that fight.
     
  8. Two Shakes

    Two Shakes Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bang on the money Billy.
     
  9. billy nelson

    billy nelson the fighting scots gym Full Member

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    you say Martinez wasn't elite level? He was Ring mag No1 and ranked No1 SFW in the world at the time and Ricky beat him
    I tell you what you must have some gym of boxers in your Edinburgh gym shame you won't disclose your gyms name because your standard must be the highest in the country
     
  10. billy nelson

    billy nelson the fighting scots gym Full Member

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    tyson Fury would KO Haye
     
  11. Gneus7

    Gneus7 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ah well it's still a pretty big fight though.

    Fury may be a better HW than Haye but that is partly because he's naturally a big HW whereas Haye's naturally a big CW. Haye still was/is a very good fighter, one of the best in Britain at the time during his prime.
     
  12. billy nelson

    billy nelson the fighting scots gym Full Member

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    if your taking the big boys wages you play by the big boys rules or stay a cruiser
     
  13. boxingcrazy

    boxingcrazy Boxing Addict Full Member

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    that might well be the case but tyson fury can't sell out arenas and david haye can that is a FACT. so saying that aj vs haye isn't the biggest fight is very misleading because if that fight were to be made it would probably be the biggest in terms of money in the uk.
     
  14. boxingcrazy

    boxingcrazy Boxing Addict Full Member

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    yes he was num 1 super feather in the world but that doesnt make you elite lol for someone in boxing you really sometimes baffle me by your lack of knowledge on these things. which elite fighter/s has martinez beat to class him as elite? let me answer for you NONE. he was a decent champion at a time when the super feather division was very poor and even you can't deny that.

    i help in an amateur gym, mostly with young boxers so i don't see what that has got to do with anything when we are speaking about professional boxing. nowhere in my post was i being disrespectful towards you or ricky but just pointing out FACT and imo it is something that you don't seem to deal with very well.
     
  15. dazzpowder

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    I agree to a point, but, once the marketing machine starts rolling and the usual trash talk begins the casuals will buy in