Just how "GREAT" were the former American "WORLD CHAMPIONS" of the past??

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  1. SmackDaBum

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    I would say - Wlad dominated better comp than Ali, just based on the weight argument alone.

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    Valuev was even bigger HW champion, and he got made a fool of by a so called cruiser champ, and not a particualry good one.


    the biggest hw titlist prior got trounced by smaller, more skilful men in much the same way too, some of whom would be LHWs.

    As did the one before him in the form of Jess Willard.


    History in fact shows the opposite of what these hwblogger types choose to think.
     
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  3. Clinton

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    :goodExactly! Nicely put!
     
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  4. HerolGee

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    weight argument alone.


    so if alis opponents had ate more pies, you'd go with Ali.

    Laughable.
     
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  5. SmackDaBum

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    You talk about "dead weight". More mass means more muscles as well. 235+ pounds beats 200+ pounds every day.

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    Just the fact that Valuev even managed to be a beltholder in modern times just shows how important size really is.

    Think.

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    SmackDaBum, Feb 2, 2016
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  7. salih

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    they were so great that most of them ended up like shoe shiners. their greatest hero, Ali, is ****ing his pants because all the punishment he took in his youth. are you seeing real men like Kovalev ****ing his pants in his old age?
     
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  8. YesMySon

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    if size matters why werent Willard and Carnera champs for longer?
     
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    Simply because they were not that good at boxing? But the size alone made them champions to begin with.

    Size is the most important in boxing, (see weight divisions)

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  10. Bulawayo

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    Based on weight alone yes...skills and quality....nope.
     
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    :lol:
     
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  12. Clinton

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    Well, well past it Larry Holmes beat Ray Mercer far more convincingly than prime atg super heavyweight Lennox Lewis and Mercer is naturally far heavier than Holmes, whose best weight was about 213. You are simply blind to the facts. But rock on to your agenda:hi:
     
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    :rofl
     
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  14. Bulawayo

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    Excellent point.
     
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  15. Gannicus

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    Who cares how great they were? They won't be as great as Khan when he becomes lineal middleweight champion/unofficial light heavyweight champion.
     
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