The Most 1 Dimensional Lineal Heavyweight Champion Ever?

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  1. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    I'm only going by footage of Burns which is admittedly limited. I haven't read Pollack's book on him.

    But its not exactly like he beat anyone worth a sh!t during his reign so one dimension served him fine.
     
  2. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Of the three punches he relied on, his jab and right are among the best ever. And Manny actually said his hook, which finished Chambers and gave Povetkin the first KD of his boxing career, was his best punch. His mastery of distance required that jab, those feet and of course, his wonderful clinching skills. I see a guy with a singular plan but one which required varied dimensions.
     
  3. janitor

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    Even if we accept your ridiculous assertion, he was giving up a lot of size, against the best heavyweights available at the time!

    Presumably you don’t consider lineal champion Marvin Hart, who defeated Jack Johnson, to be worth a ****?
     
  4. Seamus

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    Are you asserting that Burns defended against the best heavyweights of the time? You, sir, missed your true calling as a comedian.

    Hart? Was that the diaper wearing hillbilly?
     
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    I'm not sure what to call Wlad. He had the relentless offensive machine version he was younger and tentative jab and grab version when he got the title. But he still unloaded the ****nal on Pulev while old. So that's two dimensions.
     
  6. TerribleTerry73

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    I'm personally just amazed that Leon Spinks actually held the Heavyweight title for even 30 seconds.
     
  7. Rock0052

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    I think I need a little clarity from the OP on what definition we're using for one-dimensional. Are we talking purely offense? Strategy? All around? Least ability to adapt and win?

    Regardless, it's a tough call. Even a limited fighter like Willard brought a ton of strength, conditioning, and toughness to the table.
     
  8. cross_trainer

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    What do you consider Burns's one dimension to be?
     
  9. Perry

    Perry Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ingo could move, throw his jab and follow with that right. So at least he was mobile.

    Rahman is the closest thing to a walking statue we have ever had as champion. He gets my vote.
     
  10. Seamus

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    The question wasn't one dimensional but most one dimensional.

    I would say Burn's greatest dimension (apart from his fine birthing hips) was matching himself up against the equally lilliputian and more inept Billy Squires repeatedly. But again, it was a great dimension to possess.
     
  11. foreman&dempsey

    foreman&dempsey Boxing Addict banned

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    It is very hard to demostrate the oposite thing when your rivals want no part of the rematch
     
  12. mattdonnellon

    mattdonnellon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Burns wasn't one dimensional, quite the opposite.
     
  13. mattdonnellon

    mattdonnellon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Schmeling, on what i've seen.
     
  14. Mendoza

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    Huh? Wlad is a pound for pound boxer.

    World class jab and right. Devastating hook. Good speed. Good footwork. Good defense, good clinching if needed.

    If we are talking most one-dimensional linear champion, Ingo or Frazier can be discussed. And then there is Braddock who didn't even have something great that was one-dimensional.
     
  15. Mendoza

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    Hip measurement of course.