george groves a great technical boxer? lol....he ducked bute? BUTE?!?!?!? he ducked degale?!?!?! you cant be taken seriously....cant even waste my time with you...you are a complete joke
Wow, this is an Andre Ward gаy fan club. You know a fan is a nut-hugger when his answers contain no rational argument, but comments like "cant even waste my time with you", "did u hear what he just said?" and "hahahahaha". Have fun, boys.
It's not inconceivable that Ward ducked Bute, firstly, Bute was not seen as a joke before he got beat by Froch, he had a pretty fearsome reputation as a deadly body puncher. So this is just speaking in hindsight or in ignorance of how Bute was viewed back then.
i dont dispute your views on bute pre-froch....but to suggest ward was afraid of him is ridiculous.... i mean...you have this beatle guy saying that ward ducked the technical boxer george groves....whom was twice knocked out by the crude slugger, froch, that ward defeated easily(his own words froch is a one dimensional slugger)....you cant make this stuff up u wanna say pre froch bute was viewed as a good fighter...fine...but hes not...and ward didnt duck him man...ward would have easily handled him...prob easier than he did some other guy
I could accept ignorance but these guys are clearly writing with willfull ignorance. They know Bute had beaten Sakio Bika easily, whereas Ward went life and death with Bika. In 2012, Lucian Bute was a consensus top 3 super-middleweight. Ward knew Bute had the style to beat him and stayed far away, letting his attack dog Carl Froch handle that tough assignment. Carl Froch also took care of George Groves for Ward. Andre should have paid Froch for doing that. Groves and Bute have good technical skills and speed, and hit harder than Ward. Andre prefers guys who hit may hard but are too slow to ever land a punch on him. Styles make fights. Ward beats Froch, Froch beats Bute/Groves, and Bute/Groves would beat Ward, but Ward is smart enough to know that so he lets Froch take care of them. Boxing is about brains too, not just punches.
how else am i supposed to respond to "ward ducked george groves because groves is a technical fighter".....how does one respond to that seriously? like forreal guy?
you should go do a few pullups from skys****er on a windy day like those kids from your country do.....that would be more productive than the tripe you spew here george groves would get embarrassed fighting ward....i think literally not even one other person agrees with you on that
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_DfzvIMHM4 I repeat: Groves is a good technical fighters. Anyone on this site would say that.
The irony is that the weaker they make Bute out to be, the dumber it looks that Andre avoided him. Bute was the biggest name and the money man in the division. That's why Ward got bitter as soon as Froch got the hype and value of beating Bute. That increased name value, and the IBF belt, could've been going to him.
Dude, I know how to deal like people like you - stop trying. You're like the people in the movie "Idiocracy". I just act like Luke Wilson when I'm dealing with people like you.
nobody has to make bute out to be weak...he did that himself to suggest that a guy like ward was ever afraid to fight bute is ridiculous......but as usual its the same ole guys around here taking shots at ward but sticking up for that pathetic resume carrying golovkin....so its no suprise ward went through the super 6 and won it..finished unbeaten...while bute was sittin back beating up garbage....first time he stepped up he got smacked......the guy was already out on his feet and saved by the ref against andrade....lol
No, you're speaking in hindsight again "but he's not", yes, we know he's not that good now but that wasn't the case back then when Ward possibly could have ducked him (I'm not saying he did or not that's beside the point) I mean to go around saying "BUTE BUTEEE OF ALL PEOPLE HAHHA!" to me shows your ignorance of boxing in that particular time period. Bute wasn't a joke fighter in 2011, believe me.