Floyd vs Morales at 130

Agreed.

How badly did Floyd get beat in sparring? Also, what year did that happen?

 

So hard to pick against Floyd. Assuming this is prime v prime.He adjusted so well to styles and pace and different approaches. I'm a huge Eric fan, one of my very fave fighters of the last 20 years

 

Can't put that much stock in a sparring story

 

Floyd wins pretty clearly IMO

 

Interesting fight, I like it.

Morales was an amazing fighter. From 122 pounds to his early days at 130 pounds he was very special. A case can be made that he went undefeated thru his first 50 fights even though he really went 48-2 (34) in those fights. During this 12 years stretch (March of 1993 - March of 2005) he won World Titles at 122, 126, and 130. Later in his career he won a world title at 140. He beat Hector Acero-Sanchez, Daniel Zaragoza, Wayne McCullough, Marco Antonio Barrera, Kevin Kelley, Guty Espadas Jr. x2, In-Jin Chi, Paulie Ayala, Jesus Chavez, Carlos Hernandez, and Manny Fvcking Pacquiao!!! among others. He lost two close decisions to Barrera that really could have went either way... so could his win over Barrera to be honest, they were all close fights.

So, 48-2 (34) overall and 20-2 (12) in World Title fights in his first 12 years as a pro. He lost two close decisions to Barrera but he also won a decision over Barrera. He won World Title Belts in 4 weight classes (3 within his first 12 years, another late in his career). He did not win world title belts at 135 or 147 but he did win some other belts in those weight classes. The point is he was very competitive from 122-147. Later in his career he won another world title fight and lost a few world title fights but he was clearly well past his prime by that time.

Floyd Mayweather went 39-0 (25) overall and 18-0 (9) in World Title Fights at 130, 135, 140, and 147 thru his first 12 years as a pro. He would also win a World Title Belt at 154 later in his career. He never lost but many feel he should have vs. Castillo (1st fight) and DeLaHoya. Later in his career many felt he lost to Maidana (some feel both fights). Some people feel that his fight with Pacquiao could have been a draw or even a loss.

So...

Mayweather vs. Morales at 130?

I'll be back

 

The man who struggled with Espadas and got thoroughly outboxed by Raheem would not win.

@hookie foh with the Maidana and "draw" talk

 

Floyd is hard to pick against given his crazy athleticism at that weight. But Morales is someone I definitely would want to see have a go at him for two reasons. One, he was his most complete version of himself at that weight even though he was fading (unlike Floyd who's IQ and experience helped him a lot better later on), and two, his style gives him a few possible keys to victory.

On the first part, while Floyd had his way with Corrales and Hernandez, he was pressed by Augustus and Chavez and struggled with Castillo soon after. Despite being at championship level already, Floyd wasn't as versatile and savvy as he would late be at 140 and 147/154. Pressure and volume at this point were causing him visible problems, but against fighters inferior to Morales.

At this point, Morales had beaten several ATG's, and stylistically, Junior Jones was likely the most similar until Raheem, when Morales was past his prime.

Morales had equal height and reach, which is very unusual for Floyd. This helps the fact that Morales's best punches-his jab and overhand right-are two punches Floyd most consistently gets hit with (being that defensively perfect makes it easier to find holes in the pattern).

So I could see Morales, cutting the ring off and working smartly behind a jab, trying to time that overhand right over the shoulder and selectively target the body with combinations, being able to give Floyd fits. The version that lost to Raheem doesn't beat him, but a fresher version could give him a run for his money.

It's a really good fight and Erik might end up being stopped if Floyd is forced to fight, but I also see a possibility that Morales is too seasoned an aggressor for young Floyd to consistently and easily out-point.

 

Morales was well past prime vs. Raheem and it was his first fight over 130. He definitely had an off night. Espadas? What happened in the rematch?

Morales deserved the decision vs. Espadas. Are we going to pretend that Mayweather never struggled? Hernandez (got dropped), Castillo (should have lost), Judah, DeLaHoya, Mosley (was badly hurt vs. the old man), Ortiz (more than holding his own before the stoppage), Cotto, Alvarez, Maidana x2, Pacquiao.

 

...and Floyd's dlck is smelling like mrkoolkevin's shlt! That's what N_N__ said anyway.

 

floyd lost to maidana, drew with de la hoya, lost to castillo, and lost to pacquiao.

 

You even misused the "No Vaseline" reference. Moron. If you think Maidana or Pacquiao possibly beat Mayweather, then you're either biased (for whatever reason) or you don't know **** about boxing.

 

I like Floyd because of his speed but I'll say one thing and it's that I have never ever seen a more game fighter than Erik Morales .. my god was he the definition of a warrior .. unreal ..