Jack Johnson Will He Be Pardoned?

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  1. Berlenbach

    Berlenbach Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No it isn't. It demonstrates that Johnson was not being singled out or uniquely targeted. Diggs and Caminelli were found guilty of taking their consenting girlfriends across a state line for an "immoral purpose" (which the Supreme Court ruled included consensual and non-commercial ***). Are you going to tell me Johnson was not guilty of the same thing?
     
  2. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    It's a poorly made law, that's written so broadly, it can be used for wrongful purposed by overzealous people.

    The spirit of the law is to prevent *** slave trafficking. The law has a highly controversial past, and is notorious for being misused.

    Mentioning other instances where people were charged with this crime doesn't do anything for your argument.
     
  3. Berlenbach

    Berlenbach Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Of course it does. It proves Johnson wasn't being singled out when other people were being charged with the same thing at the same time. He actually received a lighter jail sentence than Diggs and Caminelli, despite going on the run. Now, do you agree that Johnson was guilty of the same thing as those two?
     
  4. reznick

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    The Mann act is still around today. Because Johnson is not the sole person to ever get charged with it, tells you that he wasn't targeted?

    lol that makes no sense
     
  5. klompton2

    klompton2 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    The mental gymnastics johnsons fans have to go through to paint him a victim is hilarious to watch.

    I will never understand why some people cant seperate their love of boxers from those boxers private lives. You see it in everything. Morons who believe(d) bonds, manning, clements, armstrong, oj, etc could do no wrong simply because they admired their professional accomplishments.
     
  6. reznick

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    Well to be fair, supporting a boxing legend who want to jail for having a white girlfriend is not the same as supporting OJ.

    The portion of the Mann Act used to convict Johnson has been amended. Murder, obviously, has not.
     
  7. mcvey

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    One was practically kidnapped by the authorities and held
    incommunicado , badgered and berated to try and force her to testify and schooled in what to say.
    The idea proffered by one poster that because one thinks Johnson was targeted because of who he was, one has to be an adoring fan boy is absolute BS . Jack Johnson is not one of my favourite boxers, his style bores me to tears, he is the complete antithesis of my favourite fighter Jack Dempsey.
     
  8. Mendoza

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    Johnson's night club in Chicago doubled as a *****house. What makes you so sure that none of the women working there were not from other states?
     
  9. Mendoza

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    Stop using Adam as a source to end debates unless your willing to accept that Marvin Hart outworked Johnson.

    It has been proven that Pollack doesn't use a balanced scale in his books in terms of examples on Johnson dark side, and when he does it's a quickly made point with little depth.
     
  10. Berlenbach

    Berlenbach Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Johnson never went to jail for having a white girlfriend.
     
  11. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    This statement is so ridiculous it doesn't merit a reply ,and what make it all the more ludicrous is that it was uttered by a Moron who hasn't even read Pollack's book! Why am I not surprised you are voting for Donald Trump ?
    He is just the sort of racist scaremonger a bigot like you would support!
     
  12. BillB

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    I don't have an opinion on this.
    If Johnson was singled out to prosecute because he was an "uppity Negro", then he should be pardoned.

    Pardons of historical figures are usually political ploys to buy votes.

    Gerald Ford and Jimmy Carter pardoned Robert E. Lee and Jefferson Davis because they were facing elections where the Deep South was up for grabs.

    Democrats already have the Black vote locked up. There's not much to be gained from pardoning Johnson.
     
  13. Dubblechin

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    Exactly.

    Prosecuting people committing crimes NOW should be the priority. Not trying to right a wrong from 100 years ago.

    Right the wrongs happening NOW. There are plenty to go around.

    :good
     
  14. klompton2

    klompton2 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Your statement perfectly typifies my point.

    If you believe Johnson went to jail because he had a white girlfriend then I have a bridge to sell you. But, this is the same fanboy apologist who thinks its perfectly acceptable for Ali to bash whites, blacks, *******uals, and anyone else who doesn't agree with his peculiar brand of "civil rights" i.e. hate speech. But that's all ok because hes a good boxer :-( At least you draw the line at murder, course then again OJ wasn't a boxer so maybe you don't.
     
  15. Mendoza

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    riginally Posted by Mendoza View Post
    Stop using Adam as a source to end debates unless your willing to accept that Marvin Hart outworked Johnson.

    It has been proven that Pollack doesn't use a balanced scale in his books in terms of examples on Johnson dark side, and when he does it's a quickly made point with little depth.


    Political threads are deleted, I said I like Sanders too ( You cant' read or remember ) , but for business, terrorism and taxes I think Trump would be decent.