Your unofficial #1 p4p fighter every year since 2000

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  1. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    2000: DLH
    2001-2002: Morales
    2003-2009: Pacquiao
    2010-2011: Martinez
    2012-2013: Gonzalez
    2014-2016: Kovalev

    That's my list now. The newer years are of course the hardest to rate because we don't have the retrospection that time allows.
     
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  2. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    PBF no where to be found on your list nor is Hopkins. Yeah great list.:-(
     
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  3. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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    One of the worst lists to date

    Floyd owns that list, the only reason Pac got on it was because May retired. Once May came back, he reclaimed it again
     
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  4. MVC!

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    2001>end 2007 : Floyd Mayweather

    2008>2009 (Mid 2009) : Pac

    Mid 2009>Sept 2015: Floyd Mayweather
     
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    Hahahaha!
     
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  6. Super Hans

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    2000: Lewis
    2001: Lewis
    2002: Lewis
    2003: Calzaghe
    2004: Calzaghe
    2005: Calzaghe
    2006: Calzaghe
    2007: Calzaghe
    2008: Calzaghe
    2009: Froch
    2010: Brook
    2011: Brook
    2012: Brook
    2013: Brook
    2014: Brook
    2015: Brook

    :deal
     
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  7. tinman

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    I thought about putting Hopkins down for 2000, but before then he didn't have any big names on his resume. No Toney. He fought peak Jones, but was badly beaten. In 2001 he picked up an excellent victory over Trinidad, but he's still a Welterweight. Morales at that time was picked up a victory over Barrera (who beat Hamed), was robbed against Barrera in the second fight in 2002 and looked immaculate against Ayala.

    As for Floyd. In the early 2000s he went life and death with Castillo so I can't put him there while Morales, Mosley and DLH, Barrera and Pacquiao were fighting each other. In the mid 2000's he was looking sharp, but his competition dropped (Gatti, Baldimor) and Pacquiao went on a strong reign against elite fighters. In the 2010's Martinez was dropping Williams and Floyd was going life and death with Maidana.
     
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  8. MVC!

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    Pac should have never been p4p #1 if Floyd did not retire, and that's irrefutable. Everyone had Floyd #1 p4p and that's irrefutable!!
     
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  9. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    Good list. I agree for the most part. However, Jones and Calzaghe might find a place in the first couple of years and Donaire, Rigondeaux, and Ward might find a place in the last few. I totally agree with your choice not to include Mayweather since Pacquiao was better p4p up to 2009 and after that Mayweather wasn't as good as he used to be, while other guys were in their primes.
     
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  10. tinman

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    Calzaghe may have been the best fighter in the world in some of those early years, but it's hard to really know for sure since Kessler in 2007 was his first real challenge.

    I could see an argument for Ward from 09-11. A good one actually, but after Martinez blew up Williams it's hard to put him there for me.
     
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  11. EnzoRD

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    2000 – Lennox Lewis
    2001 – Marco Antonio Barrera
    2002 – Marco Antonio Barrera
    2003 – Manny Pacquiao
    2004 - Bernard Hopkins
    2005 – Bernard Hopkins
    2006 – Jermaine Taylor
    2007 – Joe Calzaghe
    2008 - Joe Calzaghe
    2009 - Manny Pacquiao
    2010 - Manny Pacquiao
    2011 - Manny Pacquiao
    2012 – Timothy Bradley JR
    2013 - Floyd Mayweather
    2014 - Floyd Mayweather
    2015 – Floyd Mayweather
     
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  12. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    Still, just out of fairness sake, since he was at least the second best fighter during that period, Mayweather probably ought to get at least one year. Maybe, give him 2010 or one of the six years you've given Pacquiao. You might even give Marco Antonio Barrera 2002 since he beat Morales that year.
     
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  13. Pinkman

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    Rod Salka.
     
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  14. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Mayweather had the best logevity, but after looking at every year I don't see any year I could possibly have him #1. The year 2000 is the closest.
     
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  15. EnzoRD

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    I also found it hard to give mayweather any years. One thing about Mayweather, he never owned more than 2 belts at anyone time. Not once did he become undisputed champion in his division.
     
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