Jack Johnson Will He Be Pardoned?

When you have an opportunity to collect a rare fight film, do you hold off because there are rarer films to collect?

You don't "hold off" on correcting an injustice, just because there are more injustices in front of you. You just do it. Strike while the irons hot.

You're toxic. Your logic is that of a 15 year old who just learned the power of being contrarian.

 

Also, Jack Johnson, the first black heavyweight champion of the world, being wrongfully convicted, is a HUGE issue to correct.

It's a blemish to his reputation. Which is a blemish to black history. The importance which you seem to have 0 understanding of.

Lastly, an active voice in one issue, doesn't prove the absence of that same voice for other issues. Again, your logic is atrocious. You've given up on life, which is why you mindlessly fling **** at others.

 

Wait, upon what technical grounds was he wrongly convicted? You have already misquoted the Mann Act once. Can you be specific to the details of Johnson's on why he was wrongly convicted? Or are just chiming in with broad stroked platitudes?

 

There was a resolution brought to the US senate to call on the president to pardon Jack Johnson. The resolution passed senate:

"The resolutions echo arguments Johnson and his attorneys made in his trial 92 years ago that the boxer and his accuser, a prostitute named Belle Schreiber, were consenting adults."

Furthermore, Johnson was accused of sending one of his girlfriends $70 to set up a prostitution job. Which is absolutely insane. Even if this were the case, the grounds to use the Mann Act for such a charge is flimsier than Klomptons book sales.

The fact that some of you believe these charges, given the fact that the case is filled with open-ended "evidence", that Johnson was receiving harsh treatment due to his race, that the US SENATE passed a resolution to pardon a man whom the US government convicted, is absolutely insane. Aren't you guys boxing fans? Of all the people to wrongfully accuse, and fling **** at, you choose Jack Johnson?!

You guys are the last of a dying breed...

 

Whoever wrote that had no idea what they were talking about. The Mann Act made no distinction between consenting and non-consenting.

 

Ive given up on life because i can actual study this era and situation in its proper context and not through the eyes of some deluded boxing fanboy??? I havent given up on life ive given up on dip**** morons like you who arent smart enough or havent lived enough to know their ass from their elbow.



Like i said rez, in order to believe johnson was wrongly convicted you have to believe every lie he told on the stand and he absolutely did lie. Period. Second, your first point that a resolution was passed asking the pres to pardon because he and shrieber were consenting adults makes no difference because the majority of peopke prosecuted under the mann act or even harrassed using it were consenting. The mann wasnt specifically written to only go after non consenting adults, period, ever. Once again you dont know what your talking about or understand the times you are posting about here. You are just an ignorant boxing fan who wants to believe a boxer did no wrong simply because he was a boxer. I will repeat that if johnson gets a pardon for no other reason than he was a consenting adult then where is your sense of justice for everyone else and why is your argument reserved to only johnson? I look forward to you petitioning your congressman to pardon everyone that ran afoul of the mann act. Im excited to see you right the wrongs of history.

 

I don't know why people would want those old-time prizefighters rehabilitated by official government sanction anyway.
Half of their enduring appeal is their marginal, semi-criminal 'outlaw' status.

 

Isn't black history allowed its blemishes ??
White history sure has enough.

It actually seems a bit old-fashioned/discriminatory to suggest historically important black persons need to have their reputations kept "clean" or else "cleansed" before Black (and white) people can take pride in, or recognize, their achievements.

 

The more i think about it, the sillier the pardon idea becomes.

A pardon does not erase a conviction. It does not expunge it from history.
Johnson's conviction will still stand.
Presidential pardons leave the conviction intact and restore the persons freedom and civil rights.

What possible good will that do a dead man?

 

If Red Rooster is elected president, perhaps!

 

Agreed.

 

After the verdict, Assistant U.S. District Attorney Harry Parkin, who had prosecuted the case, said,

"This verdict will go around the world. It is a forerunner of laws to be passed throughout the entire country forbidding miscegenation. Many persons believe the negro has been persecuted. Perhaps as an individual he was, but his misfortune will be a foremost example of the evil in permitting intermarriage between whites and blacks. He must bear the consequences."

The Freeman’s Billy Lewis said that Parkin’s comments proved that Johnson had been struck below the belt. It was obvious that Johnson was not being prosecuted for being good to Belle Schreiber, but persecuted for marrying his white wives.

"Perhaps this is the first time in the history of the country where a federal court officer has given it out that a prosecution was not based on the charges preferred; that a race prejudice was the underlying motive of the prosecution; that it was in the interest of the race division. All of this is appalling in view of the source from which it came."

 

Then a pardon is not the remedy.

Congress can direct the Supreme Court to hear arguments to reverse Johnson's conviction on constitutional grounds.

If McCain and Reid are really interested in this case, let's see if they introduce such legislation.

 

Again, you are misquoting the Mann Act as passed by Congress. It applied to both consenting and non consenting adults.

Your case is emotionally driven rabble. Sometimes things are more nuanced than such sop****ric approaches.

 

This is far more compelling. And I would agree with BillB, that a pardon almost validates the original prosecution.