Carlos Monzon vs Sugar Ray Leonard

hey don't be a forum bully, what he said is fair :bbb

 

The only real version of SRL one can put forward is the one that beat Hagler, and this version of Leonard was well past prime. The longer the fight wore on the more Monzon would impose his size advantage, and he knew using it from the outset was of the utmost importance against smaller men. SRL would go quite ok in the early rounds while fresh but the going would get tougher round by round and by the finish it would be more about survival and the odd potshot/sneak attack than getting a decision. Monzon by convincing decision.

 

Hey JT...good to see you posting again!:good
Leonard did give a look at the higher weight with Geraldo, Chiverinini (sp), and Kalule though...he looked good and fast. Granted those fighters weren't Monzon however. I believe this is closer than most here...I rate Leonard that highly, and the era he came from with Hearns, Hagler, Duran, and Benitez. I think Leonard's footwork is key here...Monzon slowly beat Licata down, but you could see Licata's movement troubled Monzon...same somewhat with the Bouttier fights...Monzon eventually got to them, but initially their movement troubled him. Leonard albeit smaller is still on a much higher level than those two.

 

I think Ray has an excellent shot of a decision upset ... he has a huge edge in hand and foot speed .. Napoles was an exceptional fighter but was not only essentially a blown up lightweight but also over 34 years old when he fought Carlos .. the closest to anything like Leonard I've seen Monzon fight was Griffith and an old Emile almost took a decision over Carlos .. I'd say Ray would be a very live underdog ..

 

Does it bother you that I think hagler was much better than monzon

 

Hagler looked pretty good to me. A bad game plan hurt him more than anything else

 

Fair? A shot hagler better than prime monzón?
Please.. He does not beat monzón even prime vs prime

 

He wasn't shot he had just beat mugabi who was the consensus number 1 contender

 

Are you stupid? Hagler was in his end in the leonard fight, stop debating nonsenses

 

Dude you need to relax. Past prime and shot are two different things. Get a grip not everyone's going to agree with you. I'm just a fan I'm not claiming to be a historical expert.

 

You are debating nonsenses... You are saying that hagler in the end of his carrer would beat a prime monzón for many experts the best mw ever

 

monzon breaks him down

something like leonard-hearns 1981, but this one ends badly for sugar

 

I'm saying it would be far from an easy win for monzon. Deal with it

 

The only thing that i have to deal with is that you know **** about boxing

 

You seem like a really nice guy lol. I'm just a fan dude. Sorry I insulted your hero